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Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:47 pm**

I am new to flight sim and i have to admit that first i was very
opposite to the idea of flying other than military planes in your pc.Well i was wrong.I recently purchaced FS2004 and i am stack here in my pc flying and learning and flying and learning more!!!I also want to encourage those who work really hard on bringing us new stuff (aircrafts,adventures,sceneries and so much more) to keep up. THANK YOU GUYS. Now i would also like to post a couple of questions.Since im new to aviation, i wonder where i can find the speed limits in certain zones over various countries.Also i cant identify what are the different "shapes" shown in the gps console, could someone plz help me out?Thanks anyway.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:21 pm**

Speed restrictions are based on altitude, below 10,000' MSL the limit is 250 knots. Anything above 10,000 MSL is fair game, your limit is only the aircraft's limit

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:27 pm**

The "shapes" you see on the GPS console is Airspace-imaginary boundaries created to help regulate traffic. Although I am currently learning to fly in RL, someone else would probably be better qualified to fully explain airspace. If you have further questions, you'll get some great responses to airspace and speed restriction questions on the "real aviation" or "flight school forums".

dan741749-yes, that's true; for the U.S. While most other countries have similar restrictions, it can vary.

Welcome to SimV Knightmare, I'm glad you're enjoying the game!

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:13 pm**

Speed restrictions are based on altitude, below 10,000' MSL the limit is 250 knots. Anything above 10,000 MSL is fair game, your limit is only the aircraft's limit

uh-oh, my flying license will probably be revoked soon then, been doing some Mach 1.2 runs at FL10 lately (wonder if there is an addon sound available for breaking glass?).

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:12 pm**

Actually you're fine at 10,000. It's anything below that that the 250 limit applies to.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:16 pm**

Since im new to aviation, i wonder where i can find the speed limits in certain zones over various countries.Also i cant identify what are the different "shapes" shown in the gps console, could someone plz help me out?Thanks anyway.

In addition to what has been said about the 250 limit above....

If you're more than 12 miles offshore, there is no speed limit at any altitude. Over countries other than the USA, the 250 limit can be waived at will by the controller. This is common event in Europe. In MOAs (Military Operation Areas) there might not be a speed limit.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:20 pm**

Actually you're fine at 10,000. It's anything below that that the 250 limit applies to.

Actually he's not. You need permission to break the speed of sound-anytime. Chances are highly unlikely they were cleared to do it at 10,000 ft.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:29 pm**

Oh yeah...I didn't think about the supersonic part.

Unless he was over water, then they'll give you the clearance because nobody's out there to give a flip about the boom.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:32 pm**

I just thought of a great question-

If you break the sound barrier over water, are you allowed to keep, say, ya know, M 1.5 when you get over land (assuming you are at or above 10,000')?

I would guess yes, since I don't remember reading anything in the FARs specifically about it. Naturally, it'd be discouraged... or maybe there is something that states "no supersonic flight over land at anytime without explicit permission" that I missed...

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:43 pm**

Nope. According to the Gospel of the Federal Aviation Regulations, Part 91 Section 817:

(a) No person may operate a civil aircraft in the United States at a true flight Mach number greater than 1 except in compliance with conditions and limitations in an authorization to exceed Mach 1 issued to the operator under appendix B of this part.

(b) In addition, no person may operate a civil aircraft for which the maximum operating limit speed MM0 exceeds a Mach number of 1, to or from an airport in the United States, unless --

(1) Information available to the flight crew includes flight limitations that ensure that flights entering or leaving the United States will not cause a sonic boom to reach the surface within the United States; and

(2) The operator complies with the flight limitations prescribed in paragraph (b)(1) of this section or complies with conditions and limitations in an authorization to exceed Mach 1 issued under appendix B of this part.

(Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 2120-0005)

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:02 pm**

The concorde fly over my house one day as it was going into KIAD, or some place near Washington, and you could actually hear it slowing down, no joke

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:11 pm**

About the GPS graphics:
You can look at the FS map window to learn what's what on the GPS display; it shows the same airspaces, etc.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:55 am**

Actually I meant 1000 ft AGL...Mach 1.2...over the downtown core of a good-size city. It's quite a lot of fun

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:20 am**

Thank you all guys for your concern.

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