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landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:07 am
by Jimbo
Im using the 767 from project opensky and i was wondering what is the landing speed of the aircraft landing with;

FULL FUEL
LOW FUEL.

Im just curious thats all. Any suggestions would be fab!

Thanks in advanced.

Jimbo

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:10 am
by eno
Full fuel ..... probably round about 160kts
Low fuel .... probably round  about 140kts

Just my guesses off the top of my head ...

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:13 am
by Jimbo
Thanks eno! ;D

and also do commercial airliners use the actual brakes when braking or just the spoliers and reverse thrust, or all of the above?

I have always wondered.

Jimbo-

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:20 am
by eno
Some use autobreaking ........ youll see it on the panel of the default heavies .... this isnt as strong as manual braking and saves the brake linings ..... set it on 2 for a normal dry runway and above that if the runway is wet and slippery.


Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:22 am
by Jimbo
OH rite!

I wondered what that was for.

Thanks again.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:08 am
by Flt.Lt.Andrew
I wouldnt suggest a landing speed.
Pick somethin you know you can handle...and you know the plane can take.

A.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:05 am
by Nav
Varies from one aeroplane to another, jimbo. Don't know that 767 off-hand. But the flap setting/attitude/rate of descent is probably more important than the speed in all cases.

For any jetliner, a landing speed of 140 knots is a good starting point.

For a 737, speed 140, usually 30 degrees flap low-load, 40 degrees high load. At the other extreme, a 787, speed 155, full flap (30 degrees), spoiler deployed.......

With a default aeroplane, check the Flight Notes in the Learning Centre, and apply what they say.

For a download with no Notes, apply full flap and watch the nose position - too high, try adding a touch of power/speed. If that doesn't work, leave the power as it is and try reducing flap. Rate of descent too high (should be about 600 feet/minute), add power; too low, reduce power. Keep 'ringing the changes' until it settles into a smooth approach without either the nose, the speed, or the rate of descent getting too high or low........

Sorry I can't be more specific - but sometimes 'trial and error' is the only way :)

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:49 pm
by cobzz
i land at about 160knots at full load

135knots in lightload in the POSKY 767

When landing planes use auto brake, set at 1,2or 3 depending on runway conditions. They also nearly always(i think) use spoilers. they use thrust reverses depending on how large the runway is, how much runway they have left and runway conditions. So if its a tiny runway soaked in rain.
Ud put auto brake to 3 , set arm spoiler and as soon as you touch down use max thrust reverse till 50knots to avoid sucking up runway debris.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:56 pm
by RapidFire
Could someone tell me what RTO stands for and is used for? Rod used it for take-off on the tutorial, but never explained what it was.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:16 pm
by cobzz
RTO is the decision speed of wether to continue take off with umm say 1 engine. If you are below RTO you can brake and stop safely before the end of the runway. If you are above, you will have to continue take off and land.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:25 pm
by jknight8907
Nope.

RTO is Rejected Take-Off. It's a setting on the autobrake that will apply full brakes if you retard the throttles on the takeoff roll.

What cobzz is thinking of is V1, which is the continue/abort speed for takeoff.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:34 pm
by cobzz
oh yeah, soz  
i just did a simple search and thats wot it came up with :(
thanks for correcting me  :)

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:49 pm
by JerryH
Jimbo,

If you're really serious about the proper B767 landing speed, Matt Zagoren has published performance info for many commercial jets.  This includes takeoff speed, landing speed and probably more than you ever wanted to know.

I know his stuff is available at AvSim and FlightSim; not sure about this SimViation site.  Just do a search for "Zagoren" and you will find a B767 in there somewhere.

Hope this will help you.

Regards,
JerryH

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:00 pm
by beefhole
Ud put auto brake to 3 , set arm spoiler and as soon as you touch down use max thrust reverse till 50knots to avoid sucking up runway debris.

If you want to get really specific, it's 60 knots.  Not like it's that much of a difference or anything.

Re: landing speed2:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:03 pm
by jrpilot
Larger jets use 80 kts.