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I gotta good question for you all you sim pilots

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:53 pm
by awecrj200
Will Fs2004 work on Mac OS x? Kinda short i know ;D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:56 pm
by Triple_7
Short answer...

NO ::)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:35 pm
by awecrj200
hehe sorry I was looking at Mac computers and you can throw 8gb of ram in it.....NEVERMIND! ;D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:47 pm
by jknight8907
No.

X-Plane will, though.


Macs are great stuff, if you like the OS they're the best around.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:55 am
by commoner
...No... is the answer to that unfortunately...silly old M$ missing all those sales of FS9....not like them is it?........commoner :o

  The only Macs I like are  Triple Cheeseburgers...... ::)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:24 pm
by Rocket_Bird
Off topic: I like Big Macs

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:22 am
by legoalex2000
once i graduate high school, I WILL NEVER TOUCH A MAC AGAIN! I can't stand them, too flimsy, keeps crashing, no room for expansion like a PC, and apple is generally crappy. yes even their Ipods suck.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:49 am
by beefhole
Hmm... interesting... the Macs we work on at school are roughly three million times more stable than any PC I've ever worked on ???

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:29 am
by Reap
errrrm for all you M$ haters.....correct me if Im wrong but I think you will now find that M$ own the Mac.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:48 pm
by Brett_Henderson
Aside for a few "niche" markets (and they really don't even hold those anymore) and the stability issue (since XP that's even arguable).. there isn't even a comparison.

PC's are way faster and way less expensive and have WAY more software available for them. When M$ perfects the 64 bit version of Windows to take advantage of the Athlon 64's.. Macs will become the sole refuge for people blindly loyal to them. There won't even be a method for comparing the two.. far as speed/cost/stability/software.

It's been going that route for years now. Apple is so far behind and holds so small a market-share.. well.. you get the point.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:12 pm
by Rocket_Bird
Most professional programs used world wide... such as spreadsheets, databases, programming etc, are designed for the PC now anyways.  Not to mention the wonderful world of gaming!!  ;D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:13 pm
by Gunny04
Macs, The only mac I like, is one I smashed with a sledge hammer

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:55 am
by fm3
Very strange, the differing experiences/opinions on the Mac-PC thing. I have one of each, PC for FS stuff, mac for everything else which I do ( a PC would be a must for most business apps as everyone uses 'em).. Never been one of these rabid Mac haters, PC haters.....but I wonder about all the differing experiences. My Macs have always been far more stable machines and OSX has actually never crashed or had any sort of problem ...a computing first for me as I've never had any computer, PC or Mac, which has been flawless. Windows, with it's appealing array of flight sim software,  has always had a firm place in my computing but has in truth been far more problematic.

XP has been my worst mightmare for the PC (despite all the news that it's the most stable, 3 different PC's with XP Home have all been troublesome for me, unfortunately, in a few different ways, not just stability...here's a wierd one: I can't use XP's cd/dvd burning software; I must use  3rd party software...XP literally scrambles the text in any word processing file!  .doc, .txt, .rtf....doesn't matter what format) and finally I somehow got it to  behave a little better...or more accurately, live with and work around it's quirks. FS9 still crashes alot and has many areas where I simply can not fly, which is very upsetting. But I have to put up with this crap if I want use the simulator at all. I love the AI traffic, there's great scenery available....I could go on and on about it. I just love the MS flight sims, combat and civilian (although for some reason I've been more interested in the civilian arena for the past year or so).

There's X-Plane for the Mac but I don't like it. An empty dead world w/o AI traffic...the planes don't look as nice...scenery not as nice...just how I feel, not condeming it. I've meet rabid MS FSx haters as well who simply revile anything and everything by MS. To each, his own.

Could it just be variablilty among  various machines? I'm sure the Mac haters will not believe the stability of my Mac; I'm sure PC haters will doubt anyone's tales of a stable Windows machine. Could it be office computers that are just over-used and used by many who know very little about what they're doing; school computers which are abused and  used by people unfamiliar with Macs? Ive actually been told by people that Macs are so bad they can't even be turned on! They actually don't how to turn them on! Beyond belief, but if someone just wants to be against a Mac or a PC, it's assured that the Mac or PC doesn't have a chance with that person...and I have found no limit to the lengths people will go to support a claim ( no matter what the subject is, actually).

But I just can't buy these opinions which seem to render each system (which ever one happens to be hated) as useless, primitive, etc.  I use 'em both everyday. Personally, the PC is more work but neither system is anywhere near as bad as I have been told.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:01 pm
by beaky
Haven't used one, but I know many people working with graphics (esp. video) swear by Macs.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:13 pm
by Brett_Henderson
Macs are great, stable computers. They're just slow and over-priced. There's no incentive to keep them on the cutting edge as their market is just too small.

PC users have so many companies fighting for so many aspects of the hardware market that the competition to stay one-step ahead and do it cheaply is ongoing. Even if you don't build.. that filters into over-the counter machines. The motherboards, chipsets, etc... even in the likes of an Emachine, by comparison are months if not years ahead of Macs. There's just no incentive or money to be made keeping Mac users "state of the art".

How many quality PC motherboards are there to choose from ? There are even two (thank god) cpu makers. A person can piece together a lightning fast PC for well under $ 1,000..  and if they do their homework.. make it opened-ended for upgrades and expansions, relatively cheaply.

To say you'd have to spend twice as much on a Mac to keep pace with a PC is moot.. because you can't.. No matter how much you wanna spend. The top-end of PC performance isn't even within sight of a top-end Mac. And  "older" Macs are not only useless.. they're not even easily or readily upgradable.

Unsatable XP machines are like previously mentioned. They've been subjected to inept users and people who'll just shut a computer off.. if they don't like or know what's happening. I built a machine for our flying club.. tried to keep it running clean and smooth, but it's an uphill battle. All the members are owners.. so they don't hesitate to load or download their personal junk (Kazaa, instant messengers.. video/audio streams.. games and any number of useless computer clutter loaded with adware, browser-highjackers and pop-ups (not to mention bugs and worms)). I suppose that is one plus for Macs. They are more forgiving of ineptitude and are not the same target for bugs.

Knowing what the future looks like though.. I can't imagine spending thousands of dollars on a Mac..