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were are the radials.

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:19 am
by sonic
I was flying around last night but couldnt find any radials coming from the vors in the map screen how do I see them Im lost I misused the victor airways v185 that the flight plan gave me and stayed on the 185 heading but that took me waaaay off course I was reading and to my knowledge that victor airways is a totally diffrent thing. Wow might stick with GPS.
Re: were are the radials.

Posted:
Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:16 am
by Nav
sonic - assuming that you're flying a jet, on the NAV1 dial you will see two lines, like this:-
Re: were are the radials.

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:42 am
by garymbuska
If you are talking about the inability to see the radials on the flight map you have to change your FS9cfg file in order to display them just look for lines like the following
show_ndbs=1
showflightpath=1
show_vors=1
show_vectors=0
A 0 means it is off a 1 means it is on you will find two sections like this I beleive that one is for the flight map and the other is for gps map.
As far as when and which way to turn you have to know where you are wanting to go to if you are just flying from waypoint to waypoint without a flight plan then look at your map and calulate which way you need to turn after crosing the vor.
Rember that radials are like spokes on a bike wheel if you are flying inbound on a radial and continue to go straight without turning then the outbound radial will be 180 degrees from the inbound radial. So if you are flying due east or 90 deg. and you want to go south then you need to turn right to 180 deg and you will be ok. You can always use your course setting to point the way for your turn.
If this completly confuses you than I suggest that you take the lessons on VOR'S.
Re: were are the radials.

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:57 am
by sonic
Yea I get to a VOR and I see no radials at all so I have no idea were I'm going I didnt see vectors in my fs9.cfg though
Re: were are the radials.

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:57 pm
by Graycat8524
Heya Sonic,
What I did was download and install the freeware FSM MovingMap v1.2.0 from the Rana Inside webpage.
I tried to post a URL link to the Rana Inside webpage for you, however, it looks like someone with some HTML skills has hacked their hosts file.
Re: were are the radials.

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Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:41 pm
by Gary R.
Sonic, you need to learn to visualize the radials like genuine pilots have to. Use the Vor indicators on your panel and you charts or maps. For practice, use the cardinal compass points. For instance, if you want to track the 090 for Vor A then tune the frequency, dial 090 up on your vor one, aim you plane at a slight righ angle to the line representing the 090 radial on you vor 1 gauge and make sure you direction flag indicating that you are approaching it and not going away from it. When the 090 radial centers on your gauge turn your plane into it and keep it centered. What that means then is you are approaching the VOR A station from due east. Try it with 180, you will be approaching from due south, 270 from due west, and 000 from true north. this is just for practice. Use the moving map on the GPS 500 for an aid just to make sure your reading you instruments correctly and after a while, it will be natural. I've gotten to where I don't even refer to the moving map anymore. I do entire vor tovor flights without ever using the Fs map. I use my paper sectionals and enroute charts but thats what real pilots do to if they have older equipment and there's lots of older equipment out there, more so than the new Garmin equipped panels. You have to learn that, even ILS landings depend on you being able to find and track a radial. You can also find where you are in relation to a nearby VOR using those gauges. Tune VOR A's frequency and then rotate your Nav 1 one until its centered with you aircraft's course. Check the reading on it and that will tell you where you are in relation to the vor. If you Vor 1 centers out on 045 for example then you are northeast of the vor. The flag or arrow will tell yo if you are approaching or traveling away from the VOR. I suggest you use an aircraft with a compass style VOR 1 rather than the cessna type. They are easier to visualize with. The Moony is a good choice there. So is the Carravan.
Re: were are the radials.

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Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:17 am
by sonic
Thanks Very nice info. Learning but GPS rocks!!!! well its easier anyway I tried installing moving maps but so far no luck, I installed it but didnt get a option to install it in kneepad and when I try to run it outside the sim (setup I mean) nothing happens. I left a post overthere in the support section maybe the will have a answer.
Re: were are the radials.

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Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:39 pm
by Gary R.
The moving map on the FS 9 GPS is just as well as that kneeboard moving map. Just remember on the GPS that your track is UP. You see basically what a bird would see if it were following your aircraft from above. Just zoom it in to about 20 NM and you will be able to read things well enough. If you want something more realistic than the FS9 GPS. you could download Don Kuhns excellent Garmin 530/430 which gives you very nice freeware Garmin navigators with nav/com just like the actual Garmins. He also did two versions of the Apollo MX 20 MFD. They are under FS9 Gauges in avsim.com (sorry simV).