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VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:05 pm
by sonic
I finally passed my private piliot checkride and tyring to get the hang of VOR navigation as opposed to GPS but honestly It kicks my well you know.  I have went to http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htm and it helps but does anyone know any tips that can offer.

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:19 pm
by Rocket_Bird
VOR navigation is indeed a hard to absorb in flight simulator at first (and probably in real life for that fact!  ;D)  Ive went from flight simulator 5.1... through fs2002... through various combat flight sims... and for some reason, it took me so many years before it hit me on the head on how easy the concept was (For some reason, i discovered it in Lock On: Modern Air Combat)

I like to think of VOR as this:
1) The VOR station is like a waypoint
2) by selecting a heading on your OBS knob (or your course knob), you select a radial... Kind of like a road..

I know step 2 is the hardest to understand, as I have trouble explaining it myself.  Say you want to fly a towards the station at a 270 degree course... select 270 on your indicator and imagine a big line drawn across the VOR station... Its kind of like a road to follow
3) Then you intercept the station at an angle... and once your indicator centers... fly heading 270 (just using the example from #2) and you will be heading towards the station.
4) To always means your flying towards... from flag always means your flying away from.
5) Always think about the VOR station in relationship to your aircraft... and always remember, the radial you select on your heading indicator is relative of the station!

to help you out, ive also searched out a VOR simulation so you can better grasp the concept of VOR navigation
http://www.relia.net/~george/aviation/sim/

Anyways, i hope i helped, forgive me of my poor explanation :)

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:24 pm
by beaky
Depends on your problems. Anything in particular?
First thing pops into my head is that you can use VORs and even NDBs for some pretty precise VFR flying (IFR, too). I'm talking about interesctions, and not just the published ones. you can create the intersections you need, independent of the FS flight planner, and use them where you want to fly a good precise plan without an available landmark. This works well even without DME.
 For example: Flying along a VOR radial, when you're, say, 90 degrees bearing from some nearby NDB, that's where you begin your descent. That sort of thing. And of course you can use intersecting radials from 2 different VORs, if your plane has 2 nav. radios.
If you use a real-life chart, you can even pinpoint your location (if lost or unsure)by the same method...

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:25 pm
by wji
I wrote this article some may find useful (others may ignore)
bill
VOR Tracking -- site funded in part byNASA

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:22 pm
by Skittles
Here's a cool learning device.

http://www.relia.net/~george/aviation/sim/

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:15 am
by sonic
Ok first trip using VOR 2 questions though, I took off from KAVL went inbound to SUG VOR, turned onto the 185 radial to KGSP no problems but I noticed that the VOR heading was almost The excact same as the aircraft heading is that right.
Also When I planed the trip From kavl to kgsp it took me to the sug vor but when I planed the flight back it went to the ADB then on to asheville went smooth but why two diffrent ways.  From A-B one way and B-A another one why not just go the same way. Just want to know if there is any reason. Or am i reading too much into it. LOL.

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:25 am
by Reap
Im assuming your using the flight plan in Flight Sim.

Well in real world there are of course different procedures for approaching airports once in controled airspace, trafic will leave in a different way to arival to avoid accidents.
Of course the FS flightplanner is pretty poor in my opinion. You could try FSNavigator, thats what I use.

Also try these tutorials http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htm

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:29 am
by Fozzer
...not forgetting Fozzers Favourite Feature...
..in conjunction with FS Navigator...

http://www.fsnavigator.com

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Cheers all...!

Paul.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:42 am
by commoner
....Nice one Fozz...talk about "a picture being worth a thousand words".....that one is....commoner ;)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:06 am
by Fozzer
....Nice one Fozz...talk about "a picture being worth a thousand words".....that one is....commoner ;)


Thank-you comm...!

More pictures...>>>

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I've left out the arrows, and the descriptions, and workings of the various parts for clarity... ;)... ;D...!

LOL...!

Paul....as usual... ;)...!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:18 am
by commoner

Thank-you comm...!

More pictures...>>>

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I've left out the arrows, and the descriptions, and workings of the various parts for clarity... ;)... ;D...!

LOL...!

Paul....as usual... ;)...!
 

...LOL......I know most of the workings on the particular model........just wondered what that hole was for in the middle of her tum...never did biology at our school...commoner ::)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:02 am
by Fozzer
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:12 am
by commoner
..mmm...LOL...Yeah VERY thin...think we are getting away from the thread here...got the FROM rather than TO flag .....commoner  ;)

 pS ..looks like you were blowing a bit too hard there Fozz.. :o. ;D

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:03 pm
by sonic
Ummm wow I never knew learning VOR was so stimulating.  ;D  ;D its my favorite lesson so far.LOL
I am going to get fsnavigator as soon as I have some extra money. I have heard nothing but good things about it.

Re: VOR stuff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:28 pm
by commoner
[quote]Ummm wow I never knew learning VOR was so stimulating.