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OK HERE IS MY QUESTION:
say if ur like 30,000 or 20,000 feet
do you use ur flap right away to pin the aircraft down
or do you use the ailerons to pin it down i would think
the ailerons pin the aircraft down while desending and
the flap i guess the also slow the aircraft down also
but when i am still in mid air and when i use the flap
my speed increase and when i use the ailerons to slow
it down in mid air it decreas i would think that the flap
slow the aircraft down when i am on touch down i dont
use breaks duh i hope we all know that that why we use thurst reverser so if anybody can tell me what do they do to slow down the air craft in the air flap or ailerons any info would help or i could be wrong about the ailerons thing and pls be nice i have been using flight sim for at lease 2yr already and still havent caught up yet this is sad
and do they still have multiplayer online to play if they do pls let me know this i would love to fly with other ppl as soon as i can find any info on this but about the flap thing i would use it in mid air i guess or when i use the ailerons to pitch the aircraft down it really slow it down
but not the flap for some reason i mean the flap must slow the aircraft down there isnt nothing wrong with my joystick or anything i dont have no problem i jst want to know how the flap work or the ailerons work while in mid air getting ready to desend that all i want to know and thank you for giving me this chance to clear this up or something happy fishing or flying
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I used ailerons for rolling the aircraft... not to slow it down, unless im gliding and want to swivel back and forth just to increase my drag.. Or are you talking about spoilers?

For slowing down, I use flaps and spoilers/air brakes... as well as decrease power to my engines...

ROCKET_BIRD:
yes sorry dude i got it all wrong i ment the spoilers ur
right rocket bird so tell me do you use the spoilers on
desending or the flap on desending i use the spoilers
to a certains point and then i switch them off and use
the flap i hope i am doing this right. with the default
jets i see them using the flap i think when it time for
them to have final touch down i guess it jst something
i want to know that all.
when you take off do you use lower ur flap also to a certain point also

I'm not quite sure how you're flying, but I'll take a try at your question.

When desending, as mentioned before, I decrease power, adjust elevator trim, and make corrections as necessary.   If you are having a problem with too much airspeed, check your rate of desent.  Your vertical speed will induce more airspeed.  Also, are you using A/T?  Sometimes the plane will increase throttle if you have this set and engage spoilers.  

I hardly ever use spoilers.  I've noticed the 747 is a little stubborn when it comes to reducing airspeed on desent, but the steps on desent help reduce airspeed.  

As far as your question on climb with flaps... that depends on the aircraft.  I usually have flaps set at 5 for the first couple thousand feet and retract on climb.  

Might I suggest the flight tutorials that come with FS9 for more explaination.

Okay, here we go.  Flaps-

On takeoff. Assuming you takeoff with 5 degrees of flaps, up to 1 at 1,000 ft agl, 0 at 210 KIAS (varies based on aircraft) this is for jets, I'm not sure what you're flying

On descent.  Look in the aircraft reference sheet, available in the kneeboard.  It has a list of flap (placard) speeds there. When you get to that speed on descent, you can lower flaps to that level.  This is only for the purposes of realism, in ms you can lower them whenever the hell ya want, it won't care  ;)

Slowing down.  Always before descent, and this is just me, I disengage mach hold and slow the aircraft to 270 KIAS about 10 nm before my initial descent point.  I am a very experienced virtual pilot so I know when to expect my first descent order from ATC.  Now if you're having trouble reducing speed, your vs (vertical speed) is most likely too great, since I've never really had a problem bleeding off speed.  ASSUMING YOU FLY IFR (ATC gives you descent orders), use -1800 fpm until you get a descent order to a relatively low altitude, then use -1200 fpm.  Once again, this is just me and I often vary this to make sure I get under the glideslope.  IF YOU DON'T FLY IFR (if you don't know what IFR means, you don't fly IFR) a vs of -1600 should about cover you the whole way, when you get to an altitude that's good for approach you can just level off.  This entire time you are to be bleeding off airspeed. Shoot to be under 250 KIAS by 10,000 ft, and continue your deceleration.

Not sure if that helped at all, let me know  8)

Better add in the 'rule of three' to the other advice.

VeMon, at a 'comfortable' rate of descent, that is, around 1,800 feet per minute, an aeroplane descends about 1,000 feet for every three miles of forward travel.  This is most important for high-flying jets, but it tends to hold roughly true for aeroplanes of all shapes, sizes, and performance levels.

What that means is that if you are in a jetliner at 30,000 feet, it's best to start your descent at least 90 miles out from your destination.  Sounds a lot, but it's right (30 thousands times 3 miles).  If you're flying IFR, ATC will probably start you down even earlier than that, so be ready.