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Hello guys, i have a question..

Someone have some experience in Madeira approach?

Yesterday i did a IFR flight from Lisbon with a Corsair A330, and the flight was fine.

But in the approach, when im at 5-6 miles from the Rwy, im at 5,700 feet, and the ATC told me: Descend and mantain 2200....

im too close from the rwy, i have to descend very fast....
and today(maybe yesterday im too tired ) i did another 3 flights, all the 3 with the same results with ATC. And speeds and all the settings is correct, the normal procediment for landing.

Why i ATC is fine for Visual approaches like in Santos Dumont or Princess Juliana and in Madeira is too....HEAVY?

Thanks guys!

I've done the approach to Madeira many many times, and I use the proper approach charts, the default ATC vectors you totally wrong....
The approach to runway 23 is the easy one, where you'll pass the FUN VOR and then make a slight right turn. Straight in approaches are forbidden on both runways.

The approach most people talk about is the dreaded VOR/NDB approach to runway 5. If you're familiar with the IGS approach into the old Kai Tak, you'll have an idea about how this looks like.

I assume you'll do the VOR (FUN 112.2) approach. You're coming in from the north east, passing FUNOR at 3000ft, tracking 213.
At D7 FUN, start your descent to 1330ft which is the MDA...FUN VOR also acts as the MAP.

If weather allows, fly over the VOR and continue to track 213, further descend to 940 ft which you should be at D4. Keep 940 ft and at D6.7 you'll start the right hand baseleg  turn.
Now here's where it gets tricky...the default scenery doesn't include the curved Lead-in-lightning which is intrumental to execute this approach, since the beacons itself (not the light) also acts as visual reference points....but you should be at 460ft when you have rolled out and start to align yourself with the runway.

Proper planning and execution is the key, see if you can find some real charts ( I use Jeppesen SIMcharts)

If you grab this great add on scenery from Aerosoft, your approach will really be real!
http://secure.simmarket.com/product_inf ... cts_id=680

Here is a shot with the "curved Lead-in-lightning" which Nexus is referring to!

Nexus, do you have it?

Dave

I have the version from PT Sim, my mom actually got it for me when she was on a business trip to Portugal, maybe it's the same as Aerosoft??

If you grab this great add on scenery from Aerosoft, your approach will really be real!
http://secure.simmarket.com/product_inf ... cts_id=680

Here is a shot with the "curved Lead-in-lightning" which Nexus is referring to!

Nexus, do you have it?

Dave

Wow i have to get this Scenery, Defalt one is nothing compared with this one...

thanks for the helps guys!