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Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:22 am
by Saitek
I've just bought it the other week as I've already said in another thread,  but I'm having a few probs with it.

1) I seem to be able to have all my settings on max without any probs whatsoever. However I don't understand what the target frame rate should be. 10-100-unlimited. ??? ??? ??? ???

2) What should my resolution be? I haven't a clue. It doesn't affect the game, just the 'home page' gets smaller. The actual flying screen doesn't. ??? ??? ???

Nothing seems to  slow it down, ??? despite it being an emachines!!!

3) But I also have this zig-zag line running along my plane edges. I don't know how to get rid of it.

4) The make up of the ground and runway is all made up of squares. ??? ??? ??? Most odd, but when I set it on rock bottom graphics, - the defaults on everything... I still get this. ??? ??? ???

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Thanks for reading this.... any pointers are much appreciated....  If you need my computer specs I can dig them out....

Regards,
Ben :)  

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:46 am
by Ivan
Blocky edges can be fixed with FSAA but let's start with the specs first...

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:04 am
by Saitek
Emachines 190. :o :o

512mb ram
128mb Geforce FX 5200 graphics card
60gb hard drive
2.2ghz intel celeron processor
Microsoft Windows XP

Ben

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:04 am
by ross607
Hi Saitek,

1.
I seem to be able to have all my settings on max without any probs whatsoever
This is a problem??? I wish I had the same problem!!  :D  

Target frame rate makes your computer lock onto that frame rate and not waste any further processing power getting more than that.  I have mine set to 20 FPS and its more that acceptable for smoothness.  Greater than 30 FPS and its supposed to be imperceptible to the human eye anyway but i think that is a contenuous issue with some people!!!  ;)    Best thing is just to experiment with your setup until you're happy.

2.  Resolution should affect the quality of the image you see on screen. I set mine to 1024x768 and I have happy balance between detail and frame rates.  Again, as in point 1 you just need to experiment with settings that are right for you.

3.  What graphics card have you got? usually jaggies can be improved by turning anti-aliasing or antisoperic(haven't a clue on spelling that!) filtering on or up - do it from the hardware settings of your card in windows not from the display settings in the sim. You'll get better results.

4.  Hmmm not sure about this one... can u give anymore details, is rest of your scenery blocky? etc.

Ross

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:18 am
by Saitek
Right thanks very much... here's my reply:

For 1 & 2  I can have it on any setting, I think without it affecting the sim. Just the page where you get the plane, do the settings etc gets smaller.

I gave the grpahics card details exactly the same time as you posted yr reply!

For 4 I could post some screens shots if u want, though I've never done it be4, and not sure how 2.

What I'll do is, I'll just fly again on max resolution and unlimited frame rates.. and tell you what happens. Hang on a sec!

Ben

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:22 pm
by Staiduk
I think I know what's happening.

Saitek - does it look like this?

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Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:00 pm
by Saitek
Well yeah my graphics are better, but those squares are there. And thats what's bothering me.

How do I cure it?

Thanks
Ben

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:26 pm
by Staiduk
From the main screen, hit 'settings', then 'display', then click the 'hardware' tab.
Check that your 'Hardware Rendering Options' are all checked; then just below them check 'filtering' - ensure it is set to either 'bilinear' or 'trilinear'.

That ought to do it. :)

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:00 pm
by Saitek
Well, I've already had it on trilinear. ::)
I'll have to look at it all again tomorrow. Maybe rebooting the computer may help, instead of making one change after another, without refreshing the game.  I also tried flying on max resolution and max framerate and it didn't work! But I have everything else on max. I'll just have to give more time to it. I'll report back on any progress.

Thanks for yr help. :)

Ben

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:49 am
by Hagar
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned updating video card drivers. I could be wrong but seem to remember some issues with the Geforce FX series when FS9 was first released.

The display resolution from the sim settings does not affect the size of the screen when in Full Screen mode. I suggest using the 32 bit options which seem to give best results for most people. As an example I use 1024 X 768 x 32 for FS9 & FS2002. You could try setting the target frame rate at 25 - 30. There is no point in having it any higher except on a very powerful machine. IMHO

If you've done all that without success you will have to experiment with the display settings. Anti-aliasing & Mipmapping seem to have different effects on various systems. Good luck.

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:59 am
by Saitek
Thanks Doug!

I'll try that. Thats a sensible thing, why hadn't I thought of it be4, Getting the latest driver!!!
I'll set my computer resolution to what you suggested.

Thanks

Ben :)

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:15 am
by Skittles
On your hardware settings, what do you have your Mip mapping set to.

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:02 am
by Saitek
yep I have it on that... just doing the driver thingy at the moment....

Ben :)

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:39 pm
by krazyj
hmm thought that the higher fps the better mine is set for 60

so it does me no good ? :'( ??

Re: Help Ozzy or someone else!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:55 pm
by Hagar
hmm thought that the higher fps the better mine is set for 60

so it does me no good ? :'( ??

It depends on your system. If you set the target frame rate higher than your system can cope with it will use all available resources trying to do the impossible. These resources could be used elsewhere to improve your graphics. As Ross pointed out, anything over 30 fps won't make any difference to what you can see. The object is for the sim to to run smoothly with the best possible quality graphics for your particular system.

PS. Next time you fire up FS9 check the average frame rate. If this is lower than your target frame rate try reducing it to match, or lower. You might find that you can then increase the other display settings a notch. It's all a matter of trial & error.