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Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 7:22 pm
by pooty13901
Hi everybody,

Oldie to the MSFS, newbie to the sim community.

I've been experiencing a problem with drifting to and fro on takeoffs and landings. I see it has to do with wind conditions because when I set the weather to clear, it doesn't happen. Is there a way to set the sensitivity of the craft against this tendency? I have the Saitex X45 and all my dials are centered and calibrated. Any suggestions?

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:12 pm
by Stormtropper
Try setting rudder trim.

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 9:52 pm
by Nexus
Yep Pooty, the aircraft will tend to weather vane into the wind, which requires rudder application for directional control.

:)

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:40 am
by RIC_BARKER
Hi Pooty, welcome to SimV.

This has long been a problem with MSFS, aircraft are a little oversensitive to X-wind on the ground.

One way to "work-around" this is to play with your joystick sensitivites. I have mine set like this:

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With the sensitivities set lower in the rudder axis, you'll find you don't "hunt" the centre line as much, and it's easier and more predictable to "kickout" of the crab before a X-wind touchdown. The only downside is that when in SLEW mode, it takes forever to spin your ship around, but I can live with that.

I think that the way the MSFS physics work, means that even if you plug in the right number for rudder area and the distance from the CG (moment arm), the rudder is much, much too powerful on most aircraft. Couple that with the adverse yaw you get (not present on most modern airliners due to the yaw-damper) and it's easy to get yourself into a 45 degree crab angle - not something you can easily do in real life!

Another suggestion - Have you tried some rudder pedals? I tried a set of CH rudder pedals at the UK FS show a few years back, and they made the world of difference to aircraft control. It's just "more natural" to do it with your feet.

Ric B.

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:59 am
by Spidious
If you think that is difficult.
Try taking a Piper taildragger off in a 25 mph side wind

WOW  :o

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 12:08 pm
by pooty13901
Thanks all,

I wlil definitely be trying these suggestions out. Without the foot pedals it's too hard trying to brake, apply reversers, and steer with two hands. Thanks again.

Re: Drifting on takeoff and landing

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 6:32 am
by JBaymore
pooty,

I can strongly recommend the CH Products usb Pro Pedals.  Well made, snap to install, and work great.

best,

...............john