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Hi Guys and Gals top of the day to all. I down load the 747-200 and would like to know the flap settings for approch and landing for that model. unfortinately it did not come with those info. thanks for any information

maximum flaps -1 for normal ones, all-out for short runways.

It's really up to the pilot (that would be you

Well I fly the 747-400 and I  alway use full flaps for landing. It always works for me but You have the 747-200 and I have never flown that model but try the full flap setting on it and see if it works. Good Luck!!

thanks guys for the info. as you can see i only get on late at night around 23-2400. thanks again

Well, I use full flaps, full air brakes for everything, gives me some of the smoothest tuchdowns.

you actually extend the inflight spoilers before touch down?

I actually like coming in full flaps and full spoilers with the heavies. just keep the throttle a lot higher than usual and you can land her smoothly.

what i usually do, is to arm the auto-spoilers (Shift+/) so they open immediately as the wheels touch the ground
it also helps with keeping the plane from bouncing after touchdown

what i usually do, is to arm the auto-spoilers (Shift+/) so they open immediately as the wheels touch the ground...

And that's how it should be done for every normal landing  8)

Try flying a real aircraft into land with full flaps and spoilers.  GOOD LUCK!.

What nonsense.  Goes to show how different real world "heavy" flying and sim flying is!  

The idea of landing is to keep it as quiet as possible for the people under you, and the people sitting behind you.  Spoilers will not fulfil this requirement.  I am at a loss as to how you find laning it easier in this odd configuration too.  Full flaps tells the aircraft that you are in a Landing phase of flight, and it will config onboard systems so everything runs smoothly.  First, the spoiilers would not be able to be extended, and second, if they could, you would have reduced control over the outboard airlerons thus resulting in LESS control.

So please, mate, dont fly a real aircraft!

Regards.

I have searched for, and found, an old reply I did a few months back.  It still applies to you, even though I was helping someone esle.  Give it a read.  Long, but worth it.



About 70 miles away, reduce speed to 300, and THEN descend to 12000 at 2500 fpm.  You will go over-speed otherwise.

Say you land on runway 31 (if there is one).  Look at the ILS for runway distance (DME).  Aim to be at 20 miles away, at about 7000 feet.  Wehn you are 20 miles away, try to have about 260 knots also.

PLAN TO POSITION YOURSELF AT 90 DEGREES TO THE RUNWAY HEADING ABOUT 15 MILES AWAY AT 200 KNOTS AND 4000 FEET.  

Then comes the hard bit.  Make flaps 5.  Speed now around 190.  Check the glideslope bar to the RIGHT of the ILS.  It should be at the TOP as you are under the glideslope and it is saying you need to go UP to meet the glideslope going down towards the runway (generally a 3 degree approach angle).

When you get pretty close to the center line, turn left to intercept it at 45 degrees, and slow to 170 knots.  Drop flaps one more.  Around this time, you will see the Glideslope indicator moving down.  This will, at about 170 knots or less, descend you, if you folllow it at a stable 170 knots or less, about 700 fpm.  Once you are on the centerline (without banking MORE than 30 degrees coz you will increase descent rate and stall when you try to recover), drop the gear at about 7 miles, and flaps about 20 ish.  Speed now 150.  Keep it going and make SMALL adjustments to the approach.  You could think about slowing to 140 and full flaps around 3 miles.  

DONT FREAK OUT when getting close to the runway.  It sounds strange, but imagine there is no runway, and you are continuing to descend and fly straight!  If you have used the autopilot, you should be pretty damn on.  (expect a huge sudden descent when the autopilot picks up the glideslope.  ignore this..IT WILL RECOVER)  This doesnt hapen in real life by the way  

Ok, about 700 feet, have speed 140/138, and full flaps.  Gear down, and turn the autopilot OFF if it is on.  Keep steady, and hardly move the plane.  When you get over the runway, pitch the nose up about 5 degrees and close the throttle.  (when I said turn the autopilot off, I meant the autothrottle too!)...otherwsie it will increase power as you raise the nose, because the speed will drop.

Kepp that position and DONT releive pressure as you get nearer the ground.  IT DOESNT WORK.  and the nose doesnt like it.  When you touch down, confirm power is idle (no power - engines running tho, dont turn them off), and extend spoilers *(speed brakes), and apply half reverse power.  Again, in real life, full reverse is not used to prolonge engine life.  Let the brakes stop you, not the engines.

YOUR DOWN!  Turn Reverse off at about 70 knots and keep breaking.  taxi at 10-20.  10 round bends)

 Retract everything, and taxi off.  

Let me know how it goes  

dan_cpt340@hotmail.com  (Maybe the name helps you as to my aircraft type.)  Any questions, email me

[quote]Try flying a real aircraft into land with full flaps and spoilers.

My appologiese for the apparent attitude.  I understand what you mean.

Appreciate It's easy to take your work too seriously.  I see your point fully, and wish you will forgive me, but also hope you would understand it from my point too.

I was half in fun (dont roll your eyes at that comment), but its hard to understand how people do things as if they would happen in real life.  

No hard feelings intended, and my further posts will continue in the most light hearted of attitudes.

Regards.

It's just that the forums will be much more friendlier and enjoyable if we're all showing respect to eachother, regardless of what we know or don't know

I really appreciate to have a real 'bus driver on the forums, always valuable to have views from the big boys

I have a question or you (not regarding flying, more about the FAA), you mind if I drop you line?