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ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:22 am
by RIC_BARKER
I've been spending alot of time recently flying in IMC, and is it just me, or are some of the ILS glideslopes/localisers not in line with the runways at some major airports?
I just tried an approach into EGCC, and I was consistently guided in several feet to the left, and I always seem to be at about 100ft when over the threshold.
Has anyone else noticed a similar problem at any other (default) airports?
Ric B.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:44 am
by BFMF
There's a quite a few offset localizers

Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:44 am
by RollerBall
Hi Ric
There were quite a few offset ILSs in 2002 so I guess they were passed over into 2004
Obvious solution is to check out the problem ones with AFCAD2 and see if you can modify em to suit. Couldn't do that with 02 but it's easy with 04
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:17 am
by RIC_BARKER
Cheers guys....glad to know it's not just me then! I though I was going loopy!

Ric B.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:48 am
by Billerator
Yeah some of the ILS beams are not 'perfect'.
Though some are not certified for total 'whiteout' conditions.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:29 am
by RIC_BARKER
Yeah some of the ILS beams are not 'perfect'.
Though some are not certified for total 'whiteout' conditions.
All ILS systems have to meet certain criteria in the real world. They all have to be accurate. It's the aircraft themselves that are certified at Cat I / Cat II / Cat III minima, which is the deciding factor in what weather they can land in.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:46 am
by codered
It is possible to have offset ILS systems. Some airports have instrument approach systems, but they are offset due to buildings, mountains, etc. These are not great for 1/4 mile visibility conditions. Innsbruk and Ronald Regan have offset ILS approaches. So it might not be a bug in FS9.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:20 pm
by Billerator
Sorry Its just the fact that the ILS systems say if they are cat II, III, or I in the sim.
Im sure that the ILS beams vary in category too.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:49 pm
by RIC_BARKER
[quote]It is possible to have offset ILS systems.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:27 pm
by hiflyphil
Don't forget to press
+ to correct your altimeter. Just a few millibars difference can give you false readings of tens or even hundreds of feet.
Oh and theres no substitute for your own two eyes 8)

Phil
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:36 pm
by Nexus
[quote]Don't forget to press + to correct your altimeter.
Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Posted:
Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:27 pm
by codered
Agreed....

I have no doubt that some of the ILSeses are off by a bit or a lot in FS. Since we are no longer talking about Off set ILS approaches. I think AFCAD is the solution to fix the airport that you find has a bad approach.

Isn't the FAA (in the US anyway) supposed to fly all the approaches with their King Air to see if they are all working properly?
