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ILS useless at some airports?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:22 am

I've been spending alot of time recently flying in IMC, and is it just me, or are some of the ILS glideslopes/localisers not in line with the runways at some major airports?

I just tried an approach into EGCC, and I was consistently guided in several feet to the left, and I always seem to be at about 100ft when over the threshold.

Has anyone else noticed a similar problem at any other (default) airports?

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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby BFMF » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:44 am

There's a quite a few offset localizers ::)
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby RollerBall » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:44 am

Hi Ric

There were quite a few offset ILSs in 2002 so I guess they were passed over into 2004

Obvious solution is to check out the problem ones with AFCAD2 and see if you can modify em to suit. Couldn't do that with 02 but it's easy with 04
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:17 am

Cheers guys....glad to know it's not just me then! I though I was going loopy! ;D ;D

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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby Billerator » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:48 am

Yeah some of the ILS beams are not 'perfect'.
Though some are not certified for total 'whiteout' conditions.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:29 am

Yeah some of the ILS beams are not 'perfect'.
Though some are not certified for total 'whiteout' conditions.



All ILS systems have to meet certain criteria in the real world. They all have to be accurate. It's the aircraft themselves that are certified at Cat I / Cat II / Cat III minima, which is the deciding factor in what weather they can land in.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby codered » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:46 am

It is possible to have offset ILS systems.  Some airports have instrument approach systems, but they are offset due to buildings, mountains, etc.  These are not great for 1/4 mile visibility conditions.  Innsbruk and Ronald Regan have offset ILS approaches.  So it might not be a bug in FS9.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby Billerator » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:20 pm

Sorry Its just the fact that the ILS systems say if they are cat II, III, or I in the sim.
Im sure that the ILS beams vary in category too.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:49 pm

[quote]It is possible to have offset ILS systems.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby hiflyphil » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:27 pm

Don't forget to press + to correct your altimeter.  Just a few millibars difference can give you false readings of tens or even hundreds of feet.

Oh and theres no substitute for your own two eyes  8)

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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby Nexus » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:36 pm

[quote]Don't forget to press + to correct your altimeter.
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Re: ILS useless at some airports?

Postby codered » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:27 pm

Agreed.... ;D

I have no doubt that some of the ILSeses are off by a bit or a lot in FS.  Since we are no longer talking about Off set ILS approaches.  I think AFCAD is the solution to fix the airport that you find has a bad approach. ;D

Isn't the FAA (in the US anyway) supposed to fly all the approaches with their King Air to see if they are all working properly? ;D
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