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This sucks!

Posted:
Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:12 pm
by rickster2
I don't know; even though there are more additions to flight simulator 2004, I find it to be less troublesome to just uninstall 2004 and reinstall 2002.
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:15 pm
by JBaymore
Rickster,
Hi. Welcome to SimV.
ACOF has some issues for sure..... but so did fs2002. And Microsoft never issued a "patch" to fix that stuff that I know of.
Seems like freeware developers are coming up with numerous workarounds though.
best,
................john
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:23 pm
by rickster2
Yes Sir, I understand where you're coming from -- but when I purchased 2002, I don't think I encountered more than one problem. My current situation with some aircraft renders them unusable if I rely on the 2004 version.
Rick
Re: This sucks!

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Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:50 pm
by dave3cu
Hi Rickster,
Why not install both? They will live happily side-by-side (although you can only run one at a time) and then you can take advantage of the best of each.
Cheers,
Dave
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:25 pm
by Joe_D
The problem is, there is no one "designer".
The FS teasm is relatively small and many (most?) parts of FS are contracted out (it`s much cheaper) and aparently thrown together at the last minute while MS hopes for the best.
FS has always been known as a "cash cow" for MS meaning that FS has always had steady stream, of willing purchasers no matter how many bugs it had.
Then there is the FS comunity in general who often views MSFS as some sort of gift from MS and it`s not to be critisized or else MS will stop developing it.
This is absolute BS of course as MSFS has alwas been a top selling title and there isn`t much chance MS will abandon it no matter how much people complain.
So, the only hope is that a program like X-Plane will gain populariry and slowly get better, forcing MS to realize that the cow is drying up and they better pay attention to QC!
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:08 pm
by codered
I know you don't want my response, Rickster2, but I am not alone when I say, "what bugs?" I realize there are some minor issues with some bridges and other scenery, but I don't find anything so major that it ruins the entire game for me. The world is a big place, and I commend the MS team for taking on the world when trying to replicate it.

Re: This sucks!

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Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:16 pm
by rickster2
Codered,

I know you're not even serious with that company man response.
Re: This sucks!

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Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:40 pm
by Nexus
So much whining - and I have yet to see some specific things that you consider as 'bugs'
Give me a nice list please.
I'm totally with Codered here, in your case Rickster, I believe it's just another case of user error. It's so easy to accuse the programmer, maybe it's just your hardware, because I have not seen any missing aircraft parts or problems with my panels...
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:32 pm
by rickster2
That's with your panels sir....besides I don't have to give you a list, you have a whole website forum full of 'em. Why don't we just drop it! Of coarse you guys with the 4 and five stars next to your names are side by side and have to be supportive. As far as the system thing, my computer is brand new, fast and has lots of memory.
Closed case!
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:43 pm
by Smoke2much
All the stars mean is how many messages you have posted here. You could pop down to the jokes section and add 500 seperate jokes if you wanted to. By the end of your posting session you would have 5 stars.
I agree with some of what you say, I feel that the way that M$ has written the flight sim is poor. I have a reasonable system, it was top notch two years ago but sadly lagging now. Most applications run smoothly on it at a high frame rate, notably IL2. COF does not and neither does CFS3.
Nobody is forcing you to give a list of the bugs that you have encountered. However if you do give a list you may find that there are people here who have a solution. Getting rude about it won't help, whether you have been provoked or not.
Will
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:07 am
by RollerBall
Anybody who has a 'new', 'fast' PC that's set up right with good, compatible component parts and peripherals, has done a good clean install and takes trouble maintaining their system IMO should have no problems running this sim.
I for one would not want to buy or run a 'new' prog such as this from any supplier that was geared to PCs of 2 or more years ago. They are technically obsolete. Fact. Sorry. I would expect a prog like FS9 which is very feature rich to be geared to state of the art machine capability. That is what technical progress is all about.
The designers have tried to accomodate 'old' technology by giving you sliders. You turn em down if you have an old machine and you lose features. If you want to turn em up you have to trade in your old PC.
I can't afford a Ferrari - I make do with my Honda. I know I don't get the same performance as a Ferrari owner but I don't bitch.
Re: This sucks!

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Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:35 am
by Smoke2much
Not bitchin' here rollerball I was simply trying to snuff out any flaming and pointing out that many games from now run fast and smooth on my PC but FS2002 which came out a month after I bought my system always had trouble.
I was trying to encourage Rickster to post his list so that we could fix it. Failed miserably on that point. NGL
Will
Re: This sucks!

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Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:08 am
by RollerBall
Will- that wasn't aimed at you mate
Re: This sucks!

Posted:
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:00 pm
by codered
[quote]I believe I have the right to voice my opinion.