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hello all i am ace. im new to fs2004 but i have played on IBS (Intergrated Battle Space). I am new to fs2004 and im having some trouble with landing........

I start by filing a flight plan from Heathrow (EGLL) to Charles De Gualle.

Once I am over the skies of France ready to land. ATC tell me to descend to 2000ft and stay on this alltitude and heading until established on localizer. So I wait and wait but i never seem to be established on localizer. Please can someone help me. Or is there a option where ATC line you up with the runway automatically? Any help and i will be very greatful Ty for help
ur friend ace !

Hi there ace !

Do you know how to tune nav1 and use the ILS system in FS04 ?

ATC will guide you to within 30 degrees ( I think ) of the ILS beam.
If there isnt one then ATC will guide you exactly onto the runway.

There is also the option of asking for airport direction if you feel lost.

I have never learnt how to do the ILS and localizer stuff either - I guess its time I learnt! Is there a guide for this? (back to the FS flying lessons!)

Yeah back to school you go!  ;)

ILS is very easy, and can help you make a beautiful landing in any weather.

It is explained very well in the FS lessons and the help center thingy.

Hi Ace!
I've got to do a bit of guesswork; not sure from your post if a) you know what a localizer is or b) you know what a localizer is and can't get it. I'll assume A); 'cause I can't help you otherwise.
The Localizer is part of the ILS, or Instrument Landing System. The ILS is two 'beams' being broadcast from the end of the runway; one horizontal (the Glideslope), and one vertical (the Localizer).
What you have to do is before taking off; look at the map and find the ILS frequency of the runway you'll be landing at. (If you don't know; write 'em all down.)
As you're getting close to Charles de Gaulle; you'll have set your second VOR to the airport's frequency and your first VOR to the runway ILS. As ATC directs you to a point several miles off the end of the runway; he'll tell you fly heading 'until established on the localizer'. By that time; the ILS will have come to life; showing you two indicators - the one going left-right is the localizer. When that indicator moves to the middle of the ILS, you turn towards the runway. You are now established on the localizer - in other words; you're heading directly toward the end of the runway.
There's a bit more to it than that; but I hope that's enough to help.

And a something that often happens to the best of virtual pilots is forgetting to swap the frequencies after you have set it correctly, and then to press the nav1 button to activate it.

Thank-you all for your help !   I ask now. Is there an option where ATC automatically line you up with the runaway ?? I'm a Newbie lol. Once again thank-you for everyone who helped me !

    ur friend ace
P.S why can i not see all the posts made. Like the one that Staiduk sent. But when i go to the post reply page its there and not on the main page ? any help plz ? lol

There is no way for you to choose, but ATC will guide you to the runway if the airport does not have an ILS.

If it does, ATC will only guide you to the ILS beam and not the runway itself.

( I can see staiduk's post while replying )

Hi ACE...

Are You flying GPS? If so, (having tuned to the ILS freq. and now following ATC instructions),

Sorry Bro I dont understand all this VOR1 stuff can you teach me please ??  ???

Well I think it would be worth to pay a visit to the learning center or the lessons in FS04.
It really does get you up-to-date on all the navigation, and is very important stuff when it comes to flying.

Its hard to explain everything in a forum, especially since the learning center has some great pictures.

But if anyone has the energy to explain all this, then I salute them.  8)

rgr that bro i will pay a visit to the learning center. is COM1 same as VOR1. And is COM2 same as VOR2

No; sorry - COM are your Communication radios. NAV are your Navigation recievers.

Your VOR2 gauge (VOR) will get you to the airport from a
distance of about 180 nm. It will not lline u up with
the rwy heading. Your Vor1 gauge (ILS) is the one which will line u up with the rwy from a distance of aprox 27 nm.
To be realistic go to the fs9 map prior to takeoff and find your destination. Write down all the info.
Load the VOR2 info given into your VOR2 nav system.
Load the VOR1 info given into your VOR1 nav system and
adjust the COURSE hdg on your Autopilot to agree with
the chosen runway heading. When u pick up NAV2 at
about 180nm adjust your hdg to port or starboard to
roughly guarantee that when you get closer you'll be
roughly lined up with the rwy.  At 27nm u'll pick up the
ILS signal. You can fly the plane in manually by watching
the OBS1 gauge and making constant corrections or
much easier, on your autopilot switch off altitude and
indicated air speed and switch from HDG to APP. This
way your place will fly straight in and you can finish
your beer with only altitude to worry about. Shut down
the AP completly at 1 or 2 nms from the rwy.
Cheers / NEK

Dear Ace:

This is what you need to do to be established on the localizer:

1.