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The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:28 am
by Jean Loup
It all started when testing my fresh install FS 2004 - Ford Tri-Motor Project with a new scenario (for me) Manchukuo (China) Scenery Project, that I could not find the Control Tower. The angle of my Control Tower view, indicated that placing my point of view 180º behind the aircraft, I would view the Control Tower, but... that space was empty! :think: :think: :think: (Re: Manchukuo (China) Scenery Project) After don Garry sended me a map of the ZYTL airfield, indicating the Tower position, I took off & found it easily from the air. Don Garry also translated the one letter words that my ignorance ignored their meaning.

Today, I noticed the Tower fenomena was even stranger than Dr. Who. I was adding more scenarios, aircraft & textures from Garry's incredible Tri-Motor site, when I decided "Hey, this I do to fly. Lets test fly the Bf-108 from the Himalayan FiND aerodrome & clear heads": by chance (¿fate?) my flight opened in Tower View...
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...again I put myself behind the Taifun, looking back 180º for the Tower, but... NADA!
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From the cockpit, I saw far far away & on the other side of the tarmac, the elusive Control Tower.
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You guessed it: next thing to do (since I fly windowed & am widowed as well) was to tick the menu back on, go to airport & change my Taifun to the other end of the strip, for a better look at that Tower. Now the same angle of view I had, points the same direction & I see the Tower, POR FiN.
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I change to Tower View hopping for no more disasters, and it was a little off side to the right & far, but visible. I am not that picky so O.K. with me. Also visible from inside my Typhoon:
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Next I checked in my other FS 2004: Golden, Golden Hawaii & Silver Wings. With Tri-Motor scenarios and others, for the whole day today. I took more screenshots than any other day of my life! Until, to save you the pain of watching more boring & repeating images, I noted that it was an FS 2004 embeded config: the Control Tower position is RELATiVE to the Aircraft position (thank you, don Einstein). And the map view proves this:

Ford KORS-ORCA runway 34 & 16 take off positions (FS 2004 - Golden Wings):
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John Rogers Field runway 23 & 5 take off positions (Golden Hawaii conf. FS 2004 - Golden Hawaii)
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BUT (there is allways a fly in the soup) when testing the Duxford scenery with a DHC.2 Mk3 "Turbo Beaver", the Control Tower stayed rooted to the same spot: no more relativity señor Einstein!! Duxford EGS2 6L:
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& Duxford EGS2 24R:
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THEN I found ANOTHER STABLE Control Tower: at the Ford De Havilland FDHA Stag Lane aerodrome, NO LESS!! (the only one to search under ENGLAND, not under the United Kingdom) With what do the British construct their Control Towers?? :think: :think: :think: Both are addons!! Must have different configs... :snooty: :snooty: :snooty:

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:19 am
by tbus
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Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:28 am
by Fozzer
...... :lol: ..... :lol: ..... :lol: ...!

It took me almost three weeks* to scroll to the end of the screen shots!... :shock: ...!

Paul...... :lol: ...!

* approximately.

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:48 am
by tbus
Fozzer wrote:...... :lol: ..... :lol: ..... :lol: ...!

It took me almost three weeks* to scroll to the end of the screen shots!... :shock: ...!

Paul...... :lol: ...!

* approximately.


+1

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Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:58 pm
by Awaken
Nice screens Jean :D

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:05 pm
by tbus
Awaken wrote:Nice screens Jean :D


.... if they were in the screenshot forum!

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HERE

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:45 pm
by Awaken
tbus wrote:
Awaken wrote:Nice screens Jean :D


.... if they were in the screenshot forum!

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HERE

looking over several post you are just negative with Jeans posts. life is too short bud.

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:51 pm
by tbus
Maybe you're reading too much into your looking over.

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Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:26 pm
by Awaken
Maybe read into this....Image
:roll:

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:34 am
by tbus
OK .... I'll give it a try ......

I see you as a co-star in the movies ...... Francis the Talking Mule and, oh yes, Shrek.

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Now, let's keep it nice ..... you're taking things not of yours a little too personal. .... Just say'n

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:00 am
by Fozzer
I love it when the replies make me laugh!.... :dance: ....!

Paul..... :lol: ... :lol: ... :lol: ...!

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:32 am
by Jean Loup
Fozzer wrote:I love it when the replies make me laugh!.... :dance: ....!

Paul..... :lol: ... :lol: ... :lol: ...!

Yes FOZZER, the humor of this forum is THE BEST. :clap: :clap: :clap: I asked once:
Jean Loup wrote:HELLO, I have a Question: What is a 'clique'?
<<t

Well, this humorus answers are a 'clique' PERFECT EXAMPLE :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:50 pm
by Awaken
Tbus your being a jerk! Bye guys, I won't be participating in the simviation forum any further. I've enjoyed helping others when I could.

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:53 pm
by Jean Loup
Back to topic: FS 2004 has a default position for MAP & TOWER views, installing the Control Tower at ONE O'CLOCK from the aircraft, on either take off side of any strip. When in TOWER view mode, the screen is watching that aircraft's starboard at a 30º angle, wich corresponds with the ONE o'clock position of the MAP. I believe this condition can be corrected, because I found two addon sceneries were this default config does not apply: DUXFORD & FORD de HAVILLAND. Both MAP & TOWER views, have consistent Control Tower positions (not at one o'clock from the aircraft take off position).

Out of topic: ;) I will miss your friendship here, AWAKEN: as you see not many followed MAP & TOWER topic!! :doh: :doh: "Humor" is not to be taken that seriously... this forum is friendly but far from perfect, we are humans with all the flaws of humans. This forum really makes an effort to be friendly -including some exceptions- one just learns to live with it. Far worst things I endured in "real" life :think: :think: :think:

Re: The 180º discontroled Control Towers of FS 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:21 pm
by Jean Loup
tbus wrote:
Awaken wrote:Nice screens Jean :D

.... if they were in the screenshot forum!
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HERE

Re: Flight Simulator 2004 FAQs
pete wrote:I don't think anyone will mind too much if you post it in fs2004 ----- if you feel bad about posting in Screenshots ---

Well PETE, so wrong we were!! There is allways one "will mind" loose around... TO ERR iS HUMAN!!