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FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:23 am
by hurleydawg
New to the forum. Been away from simming for a number of years but now retired and looking forward to getting back to it. Running Century of Flight (FS9) with Saitek Yoke, Quadrant and Rudder Peddles. Everything works fine except brakes won't release. This is happening with all aircraft. Doesn't matter if it's the toe brakes or the brake button on the yoke. Brakes do their job but won't release with the yoke button or the period on keyboard. Any ideas on what the problem is and what to do to fix it. Thanks for the help.

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:15 am
by garymbuska
hurleydawg wrote:New to the forum. Been away from simming for a number of years but now retired and looking forward to getting back to it. Running Century of Flight (FS9) with Saitek Yoke, Quadrant and Rudder Peddles. Everything works fine except brakes won't release. This is happening with all aircraft. Doesn't matter if it's the toe brakes or the brake button on the yoke. Brakes do their job but won't release with the yoke button or the period on keyboard. Any ideas on what the problem is and what to do to fix it. Thanks for the help.


You need to check out the settings for your rudder peddles to see if they are working. I use a Saitek Cessna flight yoke and have CH rudder peddles as well.
Make sure that your rudder peddles are plugged in. Also the default keystroke to release the brakes is CRTL+. Unless you have changed it. If that does not work than you have issues some place.
Before you uninstall and reinstall I would first rename the FS9 CFG file. To find it check out this link http://forums.simviation.com/cgi-bin/ya ... 1075346798
Just rename it to FS9.BAK than restart FS9 it will build a new file than see if that helped. If not than you need to go through all of your keystroke assignments to see if they are still correct.
Try things like Shift E this should open the main door of a aircraft. If this does not work than your only fix may to to uninstall and reinstall and I know that can be a real pain if you have a lot of addons like myself.
Let us know what you find out. <<u

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:26 am
by Roypcox
Just a note of appreciation to you Gary, Old Air Mail,Hager and others for your always willingness to help out simmers with wonderful , simple to understand advice, without a lot of gravitas added to it. Thats what separates this site from others. You all are much appreciated!!!!

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:53 am
by garymbuska
Roypcox wrote:Just a note of appreciation to you Gary, Old Air Mail,Hager and others for your always willingness to help out simmers with wonderful , simple to understand advice, without a lot of gravitas added to it. Thats what separates this site from others. You all are much appreciated!!!!


Thanks for the complement. I always try to help where I can. And I agree with you 100% about this site it is definitely better than other sites. With a few exceptions most of the advice here is good advice. Only occasionally do I see advice that is not 100% correct but even those post meant well just did not word it right. I try to follow the K I S S Rule Keep It Simple Stupid.
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Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:10 pm
by Jean Loup
Roypcox wrote:Just a note of appreciation to you Gary, Old Air Mail,Hager and others for your always willingness to help out simmers with wonderful , simple to understand advice, without a lot of gravitas added to it. Thats what separates this site from others. You all are much appreciated!!!!

That is so true, I'll drink to that!! :obscene-drinkingbuddies:

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:12 pm
by tbus
Isn't there an option for "continuous" operation versus "intermittent"? Not at sim right now, but seem to remember it being some sort of "check box" near the command line. If you have it set up for "continuous" (can't recall the actual terminology) .... once applied, brakes will stay on and not release.

Sorry ..... not gravitas is allowed in this establishment. Our help are all paid very well.

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:04 am
by Sinkrate
(FS9) with Saitek Yoke, Quadrant and Rudder Peddles


I use Saitek quadrants as well, and have had problems with FS9 / FSX assigning functions to them without my knowledge. Could it have given them brake functions that are conflicting with the pedals / keyboard?

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:39 am
by garymbuska
Sinkrate wrote:
(FS9) with Saitek Yoke, Quadrant and Rudder Peddles


I use Saitek quadrants as well, and have had problems with FS9 / FSX assigning functions to them without my knowledge. Could it have given them brake functions that are conflicting with the pedals / keyboard?


I have never had any problems with FSX or FS9 As for making changes to assignments this could be caused by some add on. I use the Profile editor to make a profile that has all of my assignments in it than simply start up the profile before I fly. <<u

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:08 pm
by hurleydawg
Thanks for the suggestions. Have gotten the brake button on the yoke to work properly by disabling the keyboard brake function, the period. However, that has not helped with the toe brakes. They still stay locked up. Working on it. Will post solution if I find it. BTW, thanks for not jumping on the misspelling. Peddles, really Hurley what were you thinking.

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:55 pm
by Gringo6
Yes, these brakes are a pain to sort out. I sometimes have this problem too. I'd suggest you proceed as follows:

1. Are the brakes really on ? Or does the red "Brake" banner show even when the brakes are really off ? You can check
this by releasing the brakes after first setting the parking brake. Then without touching the rudder pedals, taxi
around a bit. You will be able to tell if the brakes are actually applied or not.

2. Normally these problems can be cured with an adjustment to the brake sensitivity and/or dead zone. The toe
brakes on Siatek pedals usually require a significant dead zone setting to turn the brake notice off. Maybe as much
as 25%. Also too much sensitivity can set the brakes even when there is no pressure on the toe brake.

3.With FS9 running go to: OPTIONS/SETTINGS/CONTROLS/SENSITIVITY. Look at the rudder pedal settings. You
should have three bars showing the settings for Left Brake, Right Brake, and Rudder. Set the brake sensitivity to
75% and the dead zone to 25%. Then save, restart FS9 and try it out.

4. Did that correct the problem ?

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:19 am
by garymbuska
Now that I think about it I used to see the red brake message every now and than I would just press and release both toe brakes and it would go off.
But than remembered the adjustment on sensitivity and turned it down to around 70% or so and that cleared it up. 8-)

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:58 pm
by EVVFCX
On my toe brakes i have around 5% dead zone, reverse the direction, brakes may be on all the time, are you using fsuipc?

regards

Steve

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:09 pm
by tbus
[quote="EVVFCX"toe brakes may be on all the time.

regards

Steve[/quote]

I had that once. Discovered it because I was stumbling across the floor all the time. Wasn't drunk, either. Once the toe brakes released .... I walked normally again.

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:18 pm
by hurleydawg
Not ignoring your suggestions but spent the last few in the hospital getting some problems straightened out. Will let you know how the brakes do. BTW I'm a real novice at the sim business. No add-on's as of yet. If I can't do it using FS4 setting etc. I can't do it. Not into programming as yet. Just wanting to get to flying to start with. Thanks for the help.

Re: FS9 Braking Problems

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:11 am
by tbus
hurleydawg wrote:Not ignoring your suggestions but spent the last few in the hospital getting some problems straightened out. Will let you know how the brakes do. BTW I'm a real novice at the sim business. No add-on's as of yet. If I can't do it using FS4 setting etc. I can't do it. Not into programming as yet. Just wanting to get to flying to start with. Thanks for the help.


Actually, FS4 settings are pretty easy to use. You shouldn't have any trouble:

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