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Flight from Buchanan Field (KCCR) to Santa Ana (KSNA) using Eaglesoft's BeechJet 400A and shot the ILS for 19R, even touched down on the numbers. I clear the active, request clearance to parking which was given... was told to hold short for a KingAir on final (had to cross active), which I did... was told to continue taxi, when I got ran over by Southwest 737 taking off!!!

BE58D wrote:Flight from Buchanan Field (KCCR) to Santa Ana (KSNA) using Eaglesoft's BeechJet 400A and shot the ILS for 19R, even touched down on the numbers. I clear the active, request clearance to parking which was given... was told to hold short for a KingAir on final (had to cross active), which I did... was told to continue taxi, when I got ran over by Southwest 737 taking off!!!

Tip....

...just like you do in your car, at the crossroads...

Stop, and look both ways before crossing...

Don't trust ATC!

Your life will depend upon it...! ...!

Paul.... ...!

Its a funny old do, but crossing runways in the Sim terrifies me. I always look both ways before crossing!...and its only a SIM!... ...!

...a typical example viewed from the air!...>>>

http://www.flyingmag.com/technique/prof ... ght-camera

Paul.

Well, i had so many problems like that even with permit to land...... ..........some times planes appear suddently before me just in the moment that i land....

It's that FAA Sequestration, man...

This has been and still is a problem even in FSX ATC is not worth a plug nickel.
At a airport with even a moderate amount of traffic ATC will clear you to land and just before you touch down A b747-400 lands in front of you and then to makes matters worse ATC has the Gaul to tell you to go around.
What I do if I am on the glide path and hear ATC give clearance for another aircraft to land I quickly turn off traffic Problem Solved.
Since I installed FSMAP I can see the traffic at the airport as I approach if I see a lot I turn off traffic.
DO NOT TRUST ATC in either SIM FS2004 or FSX as like stated it does not work like it should.

I get so much fun from the Flight Sims (FS 2004+FSX) every day, that I don't take them too seriously.

If ATC do something unexpected, and catch me by surprise, I just say "Whoops", have a laugh, and carry on as usual!

I find its not worth getting all excited over... ...!

(Its not real...you know!)... ...!

Paul...Whoops!.... ... ...!

If you want some real fun and laughs I sometime use my Ready For Pushback B747-200 turn up the general aviation traffic and go looking for all of the small aircraft like Cessna,s and such then go out of my way to have a mid air collision with them. It is not as easy as it sounds as you can not see the aircraft until you are right on top of it and trying to make quick turns in a B747-200 is not easy. But in the end I get a good laugh.
So like Fozzer said take it with a grain of salt.
The other thing you just have to love about ATC is by the time they warn you of a approaching aircraft the plane has all ready gone by you. But so far I have never seen a mid air collision with out me going out of my way to cause one so I guess ATC is not all that bad.

Hehe...
I use ATC to warn others about me

garymbuska wrote:If you want some real fun and laughs I sometime use my Ready For Pushback B747-200 turn up the general aviation traffic and go looking for all of the small aircraft like Cessna,s and such then go out of my way to have a mid air collision with them. It is not as easy as it sounds as you can not see the aircraft until you are right on top of it and trying to make quick turns in a B747-200 is not easy. But in the end I get a good laugh.
So like Fozzer said take it with a grain of salt.
The other thing you just have to love about ATC is by the time they warn you of a approaching aircraft the plane has all ready gone by you. But so far I have never seen a mid air collision with out me going out of my way to cause one so I guess ATC is not all that bad.

I'm glad I make your day, with my little Cessna 150 Aerobat, Garry!... ... ...!

...I can make very quick turns... ... ...!

Paul...B747 hunting!... ...!

I've had AI airplanes run me over at the Hold Short line, take off and land on top of me, and NOT ONCE has the Tower answered the phone when I've called to complain, or tried to call me to apologize!

Had a situation yesterday, landed in Geneva with permit and after touch down i was asked to clear the runway because i had no permit to land................. i try to imagin this situation at the air force...............

What's really funny, I was cleared to land and while on final the Southwest 737 asked permission to take-off and was told to hold short. The King Air reported like 15 miles out, so after I cleared the active... even though I don't recall hearing ATC telling the 737 to continue to hold short or cleared for take-off, I assumed they'd already departed and the King Air was indeed on final as we were both cleared for the ILS Runway 19R and then *whack* by the departing 737!

One thing that I often forget.... ...., is to always contact ATIS beforehand, to obtain the current active runway in use...and the correct end, depending upon the wind direction at the time, and also to avoid over-flying sensitive areas!

Its all too easy to land on the wrong end of the runway...and get told-off by the Tower upon landing!... ...!

Most runways have two ends (surprise!)... ....but many times, only one end is active for use in landing and take-off.... ....!

ATIS is useful... ...>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_ ... on_Service

Don't be fooled by runways having a glide path indicated on BOTH ends!...

Paul....going around...again!... ...!

Fozzer wrote:One thing that I often forget.... ...., is to always contact ATIS beforehand, to obtain the current active runway in use...and the correct end, depending upon the wind direction at the time, and also to avoid over-flying sensitive areas!

Its all too easy to land on the wrong end of the runway...and get told-off by the Tower upon landing!... ...!

Most runways have two ends (surprise!)... ....but many times, only one end is active for use in landing and take-off.... ....!

ATIS is useful... ...>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_ ... on_Service

Don't be fooled by runways having a glide path indicated on BOTH ends!...

Paul....going around...again!... ...!

Santa Ana (KSNA) only has two (four) runways that parallel each other and I made a left off of the runway and was instructed taxi to GA parking which required taxiing back across 19R (active)