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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby jack_ryan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:16 pm

So you had success installing it into your existing fs2004 install?  When I tried to install it I got the dreaded dual coast lines and all in all I had a less then stellar experience.  Thats why i think Ill wait till I have to reinstall before I make another stab at it.

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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:57 pm

[quote]So you had success installing it into your existing fs2004 install?
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:29 am

..a little bit of a shame so far...

Because of the greater accuracy? of the inland water-ways and roads, most, if not all, of the default, Autogen road/rail bridges are displaced, in respect of the roads, and width of the water-ways.
The default Autogen bridges can be omitted via UT, but this also makes the scenery unrealistic.
The best part of UT, for me, is the correct display of water-ways, (similar to FSX?) coast and inland.
The default road system is slightly enhanced, and include more urban and country-side roads.
Night-time lighting is enhanced, but most/all of my GA flights are carried out during daylight hours.
A bit of tinkering with the water textures/colours, using REX (FS2004), is worth experimenting with.
And, of course, VOZ 1.8 (free for FS 2004), with its lovely Season colours, and gorgeous Koorbygen buildings, is always a must-have!

So...with all my various add-ons, FS 2004 is getting more and more delightful, day by day!... :-*...!

Its just a shame about the bloody bridges!... :'(....>>>
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby JoBee » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:59 am

Paul.

You might be interested in- http://www.qlrp4ut.com/

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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:22 am

Paul.

You might be interested in- http://www.qlrp4ut.com/

cheers,
Joe


Many thanks, Joe... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

That perfectly illustrates the "problem" with UT's object placements.
I'll have a good-old read through that, and see what can be done.
Very interesting... :)...!

Thanks again, Joe!... ;)...!

Paul...FS 2004... :)...!
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:13 am

Its a bit of a shame, but I've had to switch off all the FS 2004
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby wifesaysno » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:34 pm

So is it worth it Paul? I am looking into some payware to spice up FS2004. UT NA seems to be a good idea, but I am also looking for a good scenery-placer for my fly-in project and maybe even AI traffic editor.
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby dave3cu » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:02 pm

A good flight plan creator/editor-AIFP-here:http://stuff4fs.com/open.asp?Folder=AIFP&JS=TRUE-has an excellent help file. Freeware

Scenery object placers:

Rwy12 Object Placer Program v1.2-http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=rwy12+object+placer&categoryId=-Download program and 3 library collections. Freeware. Many other object libraries available.

Flight1's Instant Scenery 2-Payware-demo available-Easy to use as you place objects while in the sim, so 'wysiwyg'. Can place objects from any 'object libraries', including FS9 default, Rwy12 and EZ-Scenery libraries. 
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:40 pm

So is it worth it Paul? I am looking into some payware to spice up FS2004. UT NA seems to be a good idea, but I am also looking for a good scenery-placer for my fly-in project and maybe even AI traffic editor.


The main things I like about UT USA, are all the detailed placements of all the Interstate Highways and major and minor roads, Railways, and correct waterways, eg; inland rivers, lakes, and coastal lines.
Cities, etc, are also well represented.
(I've managed to live without the bridges).
This afternoon I followed the highly detailed, multi-carriageway, Interstate Highway 101 from San Francisco to San Diego, at 2-3000 Feet AGL, exactly as it appears on Google Street Map.
Next run will be Route 66 from Chicago to Santa Monica!
It works very well, but note that because the rivers (wider) and roads (locations) are more accurately placed in UT, the default (size/placement) bridge objects do not match up with the scenery!
The bridges can be omitted in the UT Menu selection if required.
Overall, I am quite pleased with it, it matches the Google maps much better.
Its ideal for low-level explorations!

Not bad, for around
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby wifesaysno » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:02 pm

Sweet Paul! I might have to invest in that soon too. I am thinking of rewarding myself on spring break with some payware. The way classes have gone this semester I am surprised I still have hair! ;D  -> :-/ ->   :'(
So some more eye candy in the sim will be much appreciated.
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby R.D.W. » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:00 pm

I'M trying HOWARD mix but I'm kinda concered I have WIN7
WITH SP2 I can't even get a kneeboard to work and the
only seneries is lonely bgl's,Will UT WORK WITH WIN7[timestamp=1329778798]
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:30 pm

I'M trying HOWARD mix but I'm kinda concered I have WIN7
WITH SP2 I can't even get a kneeboard to work and the
only seneries is lonely bgl's,Will UT WORK WITH WIN7[timestamp=1329778798]


My copy of "Ultimate Terrain USA" for FS 2004, works fine with my Windows 7, Home Edition, 32 bit.

Paul...FS 2004... 8-)...!

http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=utusa
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby Fozzer » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:25 am

Hello R D W...

Thanks for the tip...
I didn't install "Howard's Mix", for fear of it overriding my many existing scenery add-ons... ;)...!
I installed UT USA instead.

Paul... :)...!

Tip: delete your e-mail address from your post above, to deter spammers to your e-mail in-box... ;)... ;)...!
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby R.D.W. » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:41 am

FOZZER
  I know you don't know me but stay with UT I tried the
HOWARD'S MIX AND it is a nightmare to remove it don't show
up in add&remove I tried system restore and that didn't work
I finally had to manually remove delteing one section at a
time,I'm just trying to save you a headache and a pain
somewhere else.GOOD LUCK WITH THE UT.I'M SURE YOUR
LIKE ANYBODY ELSE YOU HATE IT WHEN IT DON'T WORK!! >:( :'( >:( :'(
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Re: Ultimate Terrain: FS 2004. North America.

Postby R.D.W. » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:42 pm

I'M glad I caught you before, I even had another member try
to send you a message before you installed It if I can save
somebody the headache I have already been through I will do my best to do so.Fozzer can you let me know a little
bit about UT does it have a self installer??
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