737 Experience Landing

[FridayChild]

As per FS2004, the B737 landing *approach* speed (flaps 30, gear down) is between 144 and 147 knots (IAS), depending on the weight.

[pepper_airborne]

Is that for the default one?

[FridayChild]

Those data apply to a real life Boeing 737-400.

[pepper_airborne]

Ah, thanks, il keep that in mind.

[ashaman]

Ok I guess I shouldn't compare a 737 to a 747. I usually land at around 165 knots. But thats most likely not right either but I get on the runway and I don't crash with realism settings set to hard.

165 Knots in landing for a 747, only if you're full load and did a EGLL-LIRF taking off with full fuel.

With a plane that is able to fly for 16 hours like a 747 at full fuel, taking off with the tanks topped in a flight of only 2 hours is a waste. Nor so much a waste in FS, but IRL a captain that did a flight like that would be fired faster than his plane.

My suggestion is to at least try and approximate the real fuel needed to fly. Landing with a 747 with only about 5% of fuel remained in the tanks you'd be able to take it down at 145 Knots with regular flaps extension.

Fuel calculations is part of the fun, at least IMO, when simflying.

[Jakemaster]

Ok I guess I shouldn't compare a 737 to a 747. I usually land at around 165 knots. But thats most likely not right either but I get on the runway and I don't crash with realism settings set to hard.

165 Knots in landing for a 747, only if you're full load and did a EGLL-LIRF taking off with full fuel.

With a plane that is able to fly for 16 hours like a 747 at full fuel, taking off with the tanks topped in a flight of only 2 hours is a waste. Nor so much a waste in FS, but IRL a captain that did a flight like that would be fired faster than his plane.

My suggestion is to at least try and approximate the real fuel needed to fly. Landing with a 747 with only about 5% of fuel remained in the tanks you'd be able to take it down at 145 Knots with regular flaps extension.

Fuel calculations is part of the fun, at least IMO, when simflying.

Yes, I usually use the FS suggested load + a few thousand pounds and land around 5-10%.  I don't think I've flown FULLY loaded in a long long time.

[ashaman]

Yes, I usually use the FS suggested load + a few thousand pounds and land around 5-10%.  I don't think I've flown FULLY loaded in a long long time.

This is the indirect proof that my FS is a bastard. The suggested fuel load in my FS allows the selected plane to take off and declare fuel emergency at about halfway to the intended arrival airport.

I have to calculate the fuel all by myself. 8-)

[pepper_airborne]

Yeah, i also do it by myself. Though with the new F-28 i can easily bombard the little people on the ground with my feul drops, worth taking some extra

[visualchaosfx]

Ok I guess I shouldn't compare a 737 to a 747. I usually land at around 165 knots. But thats most likely not right either but I get on the runway and I don't crash with realism settings set to hard.

165 Knots in landing for a 747, only if you're full load and did a EGLL-LIRF taking off with full fuel.

With a plane that is able to fly for 16 hours like a 747 at full fuel, taking off with the tanks topped in a flight of only 2 hours is a waste. Nor so much a waste in FS, but IRL a captain that did a flight like that would be fired faster than his plane.

My suggestion is to at least try and approximate the real fuel needed to fly. Landing with a 747 with only about 5% of fuel remained in the tanks you'd be able to take it down at 145 Knots with regular flaps extension.

Fuel calculations is part of the fun, at least IMO, when simflying.

I'll have to try landing at that speed with the proper weight. I usually go by what the FMC tells me interms of landing speed.

[N2744X]

You should only deploy the spoilers when all the wheels have touched down and the throttle is idle.

Not 100% true. The spoilers can be used in flight, and almost none have a limitation speed. This is not to say "go ahead, drop em at 138, 10 feet off the runway" but rather saying that they can be deployed in any segment of the flight, to slow the aircraft down for any reason. They are usually not deployed fully in flight, as this leads to abrupt pitch change, as well as makes an enormous amount of noise. For instance, when my father flew Lear 25's he said that they would try to avoid using the spoilers in flight, because they were controlled by a toggle switch. Therefore they only had two positions: Flush or Deployed. And as I said, when fully deployed goin 400kits, they make a lotta noise, and scare a lot of passengers

[FridayChild]

Let me rephrase that bit, then...
"*On final* you should only deploy the spoilers when all the wheels..."
Better now?  ;)
(I took for granted that we were talking about landing).

[ashaman]

I'll have to try landing at that speed with the proper weight. I usually go by what the FMC tells me in terms of landing speed.

Speaking of real life 747, 165 knots (without wind correction) is rather high a landing speed. Though I'm no authority on this matter and we'd need the input of someone with direct experience, it's at least 10 knots higher than what I've ever known the landing speed of a full loaded 744 usually is.

What 744 are you using anyway, the iFly or the PMDG?

[visualchaosfx]

I'll have to try landing at that speed with the proper weight. I usually go by what the FMC tells me in terms of landing speed.

Speaking of real life 747, 165 knots (without wind correction) is rather high a landing speed. Though I'm no authority on this matter and we'd need the input of someone with direct experience, it's at least 10 knots higher than what I've ever known the landing speed of a full loaded 744 usually is.

What 744 are you using anyway, the iFly or the PMDG?

I am using the PMDG version of the 747. Earlier I landed at KSEA at 157 Knots. I'm currently putting the video clip together to post on youtube. Nothing majorily impressive or anything. Its just stuff that I want to share with other simmers like me. 8-)

[expat]

If you want to add spice to your life, don't deploy spoilers at 10 feet, use thrust reverse instead. If you are under a RAD ALT of 10 feet, you can deploy them before the wheels make contact..........Don't know if this works if FS though.

Matt

[FridayChild]

Are you sure?  :-?
Doesn't the throttle need to be idle for the reversers to work anyway?