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Re: Landing help

Postby beaky » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:06 pm

Here's the "dumbed down" version:
Don't land wrong!


Seriously, see all of the above posts; there's good advice there. Especially "practice"!!
 And practice includes going around. Trust me, horsing the airplane onto the runway after a lousy approach really doesn't help improve your skills.
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Re: Landing help

Postby z1010 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:13 pm

Daveuk,

good to hear landing is difficult. After all these years, I have to be very concentrated to make an acceptabel landing.

The first word in the first answer is the best:

                  practice .....
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Re: Landing help

Postby Silver1SWA » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:41 pm

The key to landing the 737 or any other high-performance jet is to stay ahead of the airplane.  You have to have a good feel for the aircraft.  This takes a lot of practice.  You have to know the airplane you are flying and know the actions and reactions that will happen as a result of your control movements and adjustments.
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Re: Landing help

Postby jrpilot » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:12 pm

A commercial pilot told me the secret is to keep the runway under your seat...and  as soon as you (the airplane) goes from undr your seat you must correct..and this actually works ;D
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Re: Landing help

Postby Nav » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:07 pm

I think that, at first, it's easy to give too much priority to 'lining up'.  It doesn't actually matter whether you are perfectly lined up with the runway or not, until you are about 1 mile out.

Speed, configuration, attitude, rate of descent, and above all fore-and-aft trim, are much more important aspects of the approach.  The bonus is that, if you have all those right, and the aeroplane is perfectly balanced, it is quite easy to apply just a touch of bank to bring her into line as you get close in.

Two recommendations:-

1.  Until you've had lots of practice, use banking only for your final lineup, don't mess with the rudder (there IS a technique called 'crossing the controls' for landing in heavy crosswinds, which involves using the rudder, but you can safely leave that till later!).

2.  Assuming that you're flying a big jet, save an ILS approach say 15 miles out, then fly it on full auto a few times, and watch the key instruments - engine power (N1), rate of descent, ASI, Attitude Indicator, ILS display, etc..  Turn on 'Aircraft', 'Visual Flight Path', 'Rectangles', if you like.  Note how smooth and unhurried 'George's' approach is - how the aeroplane goes down level, not diving, with the runway staying in the same place in the windscreen - and above all how much TIME you have.  

Then turn off the autothrottle and fly a few landings with the A/P still handling the line and you handling the power, pitch, and speed.  When you have that taped, switch the whole A/P off and start practising full manual.  
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Re: Landing help

Postby FS_Pilot » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:24 am

I would also like to suggest landing in spot view a few times to get the feel of the aircraft from a different prospective
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Re: Landing help

Postby Daveuk1990 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:15 pm

Hey guys thanks for all your help.
you'll be pleased to know i took everyones advice
and decided to fly the 737 and actually landed it properly. I used the Virtuall pilot and i kept zooming in and out to see if i was lined up correct.
and it actually worked i set my brakes to +3 then Max
and i landed i was landing at 150 speed or what ever
it worked i tell ya i am amazed  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :) ;D

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