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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Scottler » Mon May 10, 2004 4:56 pm

I'm on the fence about it.  While my gut says "Okay this is just stupid", there's a tiny part of me that wants there to be something there, ya know?  lol

Interesting statistic, they also said that over 120 ships per year disappear in this area, and over 100 aircraft.

They said it's so common that many times it's not reported because it's just not newsworthy.  lol
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Hagar » Mon May 10, 2004 5:22 pm

[quote]I'm on the fence about it.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Scottler » Mon May 10, 2004 5:23 pm

If they took place in US waters, then the Coast Guard stats would reflect them all, but the triangle (or whatever you want to call it) is over a million square miles of sea...not all USCG jurisdiction. ;)
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Hagar » Mon May 10, 2004 5:29 pm

If they took place in US waters, then the Coast Guard stats would reflect them all, but the triangle (or whatever you want to call it) is over a million square miles of sea...not all USCG jurisdiction. ;)

The original "Triangle" is within US jurisdiction.
The apexes of the triangle are generally accepted to be Bermuda, Miami, Fla., and San Juan, Puerto Rico.

The area has been conveniently extended every time there was "mysterious" incident over many years to fit the theory. LOL ;D
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Scottler » Mon May 10, 2004 5:34 pm

Yeah that's one thing that was also mentioned.  lol  It's not triangular at all anymore.  lol
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby esa17 » Mon May 10, 2004 7:03 pm

The Methane was also mentioned in the downing of many aircraft.  The DSC documentary did several experiments.  One where they introduced a methane cloud into a 737 simulator, another to see if a WWII radial engine would cause a mid-air explosion, and a third where they introduced methane directly into the engine.  It took less than 1% methane saturation to kill the engine.  Very cool stuff.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Smoke2much » Mon May 10, 2004 7:45 pm

Human beings love a mystery, anything that will make the world seem less boring than it really is.  The sad truth is that the world is quite a dull place.

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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby ozzy72 » Tue May 11, 2004 7:34 am

Hmm methane, well if you climb above 13000 ft or so in an unpressurised enviroment then you do in fact get uncontrollable flatulence. Moral of the story, fly with the canopy open ;) Oh and don't have beans before flying anywhere near Bermuda ;D

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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Delta_ » Tue May 11, 2004 8:50 am

Here is a map: it is mainly US waters but a good part of it is UK waters.
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I would see the methane in the water as a good explanation for ships going doing there, but how is so random when it happens?  Methane release is constant.  Ships sail through there and have no problems.  Also i would put aircraft crashing there down to the area being hard to navigate using VFR, unless you use your instruments, which may be faulty, i would recommend keeping a spare compass with you just make sure.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby congo » Tue May 11, 2004 9:42 am

So why is the "methane" thing just taken for granted anyway, WHAT methane? As for a methane "cloud",
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Scottler » Tue May 11, 2004 10:52 am

The explanation produced in this documentary was that due to geographic turbulence...such as a landslide by the many "mountains" and "valleys" on the seabed, large quantities of gas are released at once.

This was considered to be a myth until the mid 90s when an oil platform punctured a "vein" of methane on the sea floor and it was video taped almost sinking with the sea literally boiling around it.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Hagar » Tue May 11, 2004 11:09 am

[quote]To us, the Bermuda triangle was something we talked about at campfires and scared tourists with!
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby ozzy72 » Tue May 11, 2004 11:53 am

geographic turbulence

Is this when you have to move one of your cheeks to fart? :D
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby Delta_ » Tue May 11, 2004 12:29 pm

The reason you don't smell the methane is because it dissolves into the water.  Methane will dissolve into water and stay in there and some may leak out from the surface due to the equilibrium that needs to be balanced, but it is minimal so you can't smell it.  Methane dissolved in water will make it "lighter" and cause ships to lack as much bouyancy and the risk of sinking is greater.  Assuming it is not released in massive amounts, then it would reach the surface before dissolving.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle?

Postby esa17 » Tue May 11, 2004 1:41 pm

According to the documentary the "methane clouds" are caused by an almost explosive collapse of methane pockets under the ocean floor.  The gas creates a bubble that is quite capable of taking down a ship in seconds.  The bubbles then transfer into the air where the saturate the air and cause planes to lose lift and can cause the engine to stall.  They showed craters in the ocean floor caused by such decompressions.  The amount of methane that cause the sudden sinking of ships or the downing of a plane would be undetectable.  It was a pretty sweet deal all together.
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