What the *@#!... ATC?!

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Re: What the *@#!... ATC?!

Postby Fozzer » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:14 am

BE58D wrote:
Santa Ana (KSNA) only has two (four) runways that parallel each other and I made a left off of the runway and was instructed taxi to GA parking which required taxiing back across 19R (active)


San Francisco (KSFO) is a good example. It has 4 runways, crossing each other at right angles!

28L is the active runway to land (and take-off) and if you wish to to re-fuel after landing, you have to cross 28R to get to the fuel pumps...with great care!
..I take great care!..... :lol: ...!

I stop, and double check both ways, ground and in the air, before crossing runways, (even without Ground Control advising me!).

...lessons learned on my motor-bike!... ;) ...!

Paul.... :mrgreen: ...!
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Re: What the *@#!... ATC?!

Postby BLAZE » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:55 am

I like when just after takeoff (better realizm effect in a jetliner VC mode) I come so close to another plane that I can almost read its
tail numbers. It was cool cause we had that high speed of two vehicles coming at each other. It looked so real, I was like WOOOOOH! :shock:

I should pay more attention to the ATC chatter in the back ground. I usually set Com-1 to my airports frequency and Com-2 to the
frequency of a nearby airport to get an idea whats going on above. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't. :)
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Re: What the *@#!... ATC?!

Postby EVVFCX » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:31 am

atc crazy: yep it is, having just setup a rat7 mouse for controlling autopilot simply because I don't normally use it and wanted
to make things harder, I setup various flights from airports within 60 miles or so of Heathrow and set weather to fogged in.

Setup and loaded IFR flight plan, taxied etc according to IFR departure and on one flight from Stansted to heathrow 27R it gave
me visual approach - hang on! it's pea soup out there and deliberatly gave myself more of a challenge, odd thing is, it doesn't
give me visual approach in those conditions if from Luton or Southhampton.

What I'm also getting is on the ATC window it has options such as runway in sight, missed approach etc but ATC is not giving time
to respond before it hands you over to another control centre such as Heathrow approach.

I do wish the whole ATC system in FSX could be replaced, it's also not nice when your in a que, when it's your turn you line up
and an airliner comes over you to land.

I shouted out once in shock and the wife said what on earth's wrong with you
Wives, no understanding at all :)

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Re: What the *@#!... ATC?!

Postby garymbuska » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:11 pm

EVVFCX wrote:atc crazy: yep it is, having just setup a rat7 mouse for controlling autopilot simply because I don't normally use it and wanted
to make things harder, I setup various flights from airports within 60 miles or so of Heathrow and set weather to fogged in.

Setup and loaded IFR flight plan, taxied etc according to IFR departure and on one flight from Stansted to heathrow 27R it gave
me visual approach - hang on! it's pea soup out there and deliberatly gave myself more of a challenge, odd thing is, it doesn't
give me visual approach in those conditions if from Luton or Southhampton.

What I'm also getting is on the ATC window it has options such as runway in sight, missed approach etc but ATC is not giving time
to respond before it hands you over to another control centre such as Heathrow approach.

I do wish the whole ATC system in FSX could be replaced, it's also not nice when your in a que, when it's your turn you line up
and an airliner comes over you to land.

I shouted out once in shock and the wife said what on earth's wrong with you
Wives, no understanding at all :)

regards

Steve


This is just the way FSX is the only way to insure you will not have this happen to you is to turn of traffic as you start to make your approach.
In the real world I was flying in a P3 from NAS JAX to NAS Alameda. I was at the radar station and noticed a lot of general aviation traffic in the vicinity. We had be given clearance to land but was coming out of the clouds. I was listening to ATC talk to someone in a twin engine aircraft ATC had told them about us and advised him to turn right to some heading. The pilot of the twin repeated the instruction and proceeded to turn LEFT instead of right. Which put him right in our flight path. I immediately told the pilot of our p3 we have a traffic problem and he needed to pull up. I than heard ATC scream at the top of his lungs no you idiot right not left you have a P3 coming out of the clouds on final. When we broke out of the clouds I could have told you what his eye color and tie color was, I actually saw him push the yoke down. How we missed him was nothing short of pure luck and quick reflexes. This was the closest I have ever come to a mid air collision. And probably the reason I now have gray hair :lol:



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Re: What the *@#!... ATC?!

Postby Stewy44 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:16 pm

At the big airports I set all the AI traffic to flying IFR plans. That seems to stop AI aircraft "jimmying in" on the glideslope when I'm 8 NM out and ready to land.

Much like the charts, if there is too much congestion, I'll fly a circuit or two at the top of the glideslope until the runway is clear - it's quicker and easier than flying the full go-around.

FS9 ATC isn't smart enough to put you into a hold - so that requires a keen eye (and ear!) to tell if it's busy at the airport.

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