Does??

[alrot]

MD-82 is the same DC-9  ???  ???  ???

[Nexus]

The MD8X is just a newer version of the aircraft, with improvements in engines and avionics etc.

DC = Douglas Corporation (Before the merger with MCdonnell)
MD = McDonnell Douglas (post-merge)

[alrot]

Quite ago haven't see you buddy, glad to see you again and thanks Nexus

[elite marksman]

And now, the MD-9X series is the Boeing 717 series, since Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas.

[Nexus]

And now, the MD-9X series is the Boeing 717 series, since Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas.

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Actually WAS...since the B717 production has been cancelled.

[alrot]

And now, the MD-9X series is the Boeing 717 series, since Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas.

Wow! what did you know Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas I didn't knew that, sorry for my ignorancy i guess ill look for a b717 because i had a little hard time to find a good dc9 maybe by the name of boeing ill find a good model ,thanks duds

[Nexus]

Oh yes..Boeing overtook McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 I believe.

But the "boeing 717" is a rather special derative of the Dc9 since it has much bigger engines and the cockpit avionics is like the MD11.

Unfortuneately, the Boeing 717 is actually a head-to-head competitor to the Boeing 737-600 (which already was in development by the time Boeing acquired MD)

So in an attempt to keep the 717 alive, Boeing tried to market the B717 as a regional jet, which was a failure from the start.

[alrot]

That's why I see a Lots of dc9 or b717 in my local airport the 70% of the heavys are 717 and they looks brand new,now i get it...By the way they has almost the same size, and when they are in B2(taking off) they are the only ones who inclinates in almost 25 degree angle,seems they had a very powerful engines and also are very silence,instead the 737 for example

[Nexus]

Yeah...the 717 is beefed up allright, but you can forget about the 25 degree pitch angle
It's very rare that commercial airliners have that steep pitch angles during take-offs, especially at the warm and humid areas in south America. You see hot air is less dense than warm and decreases engine effiency very much.

And by B2, do you actually mean V2? (take-of safety speed?)  :)

[alrot]

Ops,right V2 not B2..sorry Truly Nexus I've seen it with my own eyes,from the tower i spend sometimes there,even the trafic controlers personel doesn't like it,but....it lift of like a chopper,you'll have to see,.Ill will try to take some shots at the moment to show it here..
Others are from Fedex guys they thing they got an F-16 usualy they come in a 737 maybe 300 kias very low over my city,and seems they don't use rudders they make a 40degree turn Like a combat to aling with the runway every mondays and wenesday at 8 am aprox,all the building shakes when those @|

[Nexus]

It's an optic illusion that you see
It may look like 25 degrees, but in reality we're dealing with maybe 17-20 degrees at max.

And I doubt the thing about Fedex. Mostly because they don't fly 737's, but granted they still use the 727 and it's not at 300knots either. That would put too much of a load on the flap system (max is around 250kias for the slats), and I don't know weither you guys have it or not, but there is a standard rule that says max speed below 10.000ft is 250kts  8)

[Midnight_LS1]

Oh yes..Boeing overtook McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 I believe.

But the "boeing 717" is a rather special derative of the Dc9 since it has much bigger engines and the cockpit avionics is like the MD11.

Unfortuneately, the Boeing 717 is actually a head-to-head competitor to the Boeing 737-600 (which already was in development by the time Boeing acquired MD)

So in an attempt to keep the 717 alive, Boeing tried to market the B717 as a regional jet, which was a failure from the start.

I thought the 717 was acutally a MD-95 if they were still around.

[Midnight_LS1]

[quote]It's an optic illusion that you see
It may look like 25 degrees, but in reality we're dealing with maybe 17-20 degrees at max.

And I doubt the thing about Fedex. Mostly because they don't fly 737's, but granted they still use the 727 and it's not at 300knots either. That would put too much of a load on the flap system (max is around 250kias for the slats), and I don't know weither you guys have it or not, but there is a standard rule that says max speed below 10.000ft is 250kts

[Nexus]

ATC can grant you high speed approach provided you can come in high speed and slow down to a safe landing speed, it's often used in the caribbean from what I see.

Well according to ALROT, he's talking about the state of the aircraft prior to intercepting the LOC. And I can assure you that NO pilot with enough common sense will want to be at 300KIAS by that time....unless they are military jockeys  ;D

[garymbuska]

The MDxx aircraft has had so many different versions it is not funny. Almost as bad as the 737-xxx but I think the 737 wins hands down. It started with a basic version then they changed engines and thus a different number than they streched it and yet another number than they changed engines on the strech version and another number than they streched the strech and you guessed it another number. The sequences I have listed might not be in the exact order they came out in but that somes it up pretty well. Then to top it off they redesigned the tail of the aircraft and changed engines again and created the MD90 series.
If you were to ask any load planner what is the worst aircraft to load the MD88 wil get the most votes for sure, It is comonly referred to as a load planners night mere.
As long as it it full of passengers it presents no real problems but let the passengers start to fall short of full  and the fun starts. It has to due with the fact the wings are so far in front of the majority of the passengers seats. A full plane is tail heavy but remove some passengers from the back and it quickly becomes nose heavy as all get out. And beleive me it does not take alot to make this plane nose heavy.