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More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:01 am
by jpw
I have some of the PAI AI flight plans ( mainly the ones that Fly in the US.) and a few of my own flight plans and they all work awsome except when it comes time to set these birds down.

Well main at the larger international airports, i get 2, 3 sometimes on up to 5 planes all right in a row.  All landing on the same runway, at almost the same time,    

Im just wonding if thier a program or a way to make the planes land and take off on all the runways ( that are going the same direction) and maybe get the atc to have some planes have a longer or shorter apporach so where not landing on top of each other.

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:26 am
by wji
I use Ultimate Traffic and what you say is correct

It's a rock and hardplace, ain't it?
More traffic, longer lineups?
bill

p.s. to get ATC takeoff clearance before all the crates in th line-up,  take the last available intersection (before the departure point) and request take-off clearance; ATC will generaly allow one more plane to land and one to take-off  -- then it's your turn.

Try it.

Bill

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:22 pm
by jpw
what is Ultimate Traffic?

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:37 pm
by planespotter
I think it's a payware package for AI traffic.

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:33 pm
by jpw
yea i looked on the website, looks pretty cool, might have to get it some time...

Sois their a way i can get the act. to  have variing length approches so thier not 4 planes landing at once, and use multiple run ways?  Or am i just gonna have to wait and hope this is corrected in 2006?

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:16 pm
by shamrock_1
this is also a big problem for me, particularly at amsterdam schiphol.

Re: More organized ATC??

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:31 pm
by xFLAMESx
Howdy people,
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem.

I had to go around FOUR times at Munich (EDDM) today >:(

Anyroad, I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it ::), other than use a traffic management program like spacejock's yRoute (which I use) to space-out or even remove some flights altogether.

I started working on it today and it seems to be working OK (no need for go-arounds anymore)

The problem is : Do you want, Realistic amounts of traffic? or, to be able to land straight away (maybe one go-around is acceptable) ::)

I chose the second as it's kinda difficult to go around four times when you only have a tiny bit of fuel left ;D

As for ATC using all available runways, It does - SOMETIMES.

I've read somwhere (possibly here) that ATC chooses runways based on which way you approach from.
Take Heathrow (EGLL) for example:

If you or AI approach from the North, you'll most likely get 9L/27R

However, if you approach from the South, you have more chance of getting 9R/27L

If flying straight-in, you can always request the less busy runway to land.

Maybe someday M$ will get it right ::)
Like maybe incorporating PROPER stacks, rather than clearing everyone at once.

Hope this info is useful (even if only a tiny bit)

Cheers all,

Carl out.....