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RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:27 am
by xbike
Howdy.  Does anyone know of any Radio Control size planes for Flight Simulator?  Or if Flight Simulator would even support such small planes?

I have my exercise bike connected to my computer and fly VFR.

As well as MS Flight Simulator, I also fly Real Flight G3.5 and G4 RC simulators.  They are fun but limited in scenery.  If there were RC Size planes for FS it would open up the world to small flying.  I would love to fly around Washington DC, New York, Chicago, San Diego, Vegas, etc in a "Land of the Giants" mode.  How many remember "Hawaiian Odyssey Scenery Adventure" with the fantasy scenery?

I tried FS Design Studio, but they depend on using existing planes for the flight model, without a small plane as a basis, I seem to be stuck.

Thanks much,
xbike

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:51 pm
by Travis
Its surely possible to build an aircraft in a small size, but you wouldn't really be able to have a VC that size, since you would run into several issues:

1. In FS9, you wouldn't get much detail, since it has a 4mm weld for any vertices, meaning no parts could be less than 4mm wide.  In FSX, this issue is fixed.

2. The view distance is set in such a way that the eyepoint would be extremely big in comparison.  You would pretty much have to zoom out all the way to get any real view of the cockpit.

But if you're okay with just viewing from outside, 2D panel or just no VC, you'd be fine.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:35 pm
by HarvesteR
actually, to keep things realistic, it would be better to fly such planes from 'tower' view...

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:43 pm
by xbike
Thanks Travis and HarvesteR,

This is kind of encouraging that at least it could be done.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:12 pm
by Travis
Your engine parameters are gonna have to be wacky as all get out . . .

The weight won't be a problem, although you may have to tweak it to get it to sit right.

All kinds of weird tweaks will have to be performed. ;)

EDIT:

It just struck me that instead of making the plane be smaller, you could make the "world" be bigger by creating custom scenery that makes things look a lot larger.  You'd have to do it in an enclosed area, but you could make scenery that resembles a house or room and then fly around that at 2x speed or greater in whatever aircraft you wanted.  It probably wouldn't be as accurate, but it would be easier.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:10 pm
by xbike
Hi Travis,

Glancing through the Aircraft Configuration Files.htm there sure are a lot of parameters.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:19 pm
by Travis
There are SOME parameters that can be omitted, but most need to be included.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:43 am
by HarvesteR
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I also read about the .air file, but that doesn't look directly editable like the .cfg file.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:22 pm
by 87HondaShadow
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I also read about the .air file, but that doesn't look directly editable like the .cfg file.

Re: RC size planes for Flight Simulator?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:23 am
by xbike
Thanks guys,

I have started the tutorials for gmax.  

Looking for AirEd, the web site, www.simradar.com/File/Developer_Tools/index.html
gives an error, "Oops, we had the following problem: Unknown File requested."

This looks like the same software,  Bob Chicilo mentions in his document, "Tweaking the flight dynamics of aircraft in one of Microsoft's simulators". He talks of Airman, an air editor for FS2002 which he says works with FS9 and FSX, but the file name is aired.exe.

Okay, found it at: http://desktopaviator.tripod.com/Progra ... /index.htm

Thanks again for the help.  Off to play some more.  

xbike