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I'm trying to run the 2009 707 that was featured on Simviation's main page.

I'm trying to run the 2009 707 that was featured on Simviation's main page.  I've sorted out a few problems, but can't get past some gauge errors whenever I select the aircraft.

The gauge errors come up saying that the gauge(s) are from a previous version of FS that wont work in FSX.  The gauges say they are made by an an Andreas Jaros.

I'd really like to get all the gauges and panels in this 2009 707 to work properly.  I can't really tell which gauges aren't working but there seems to be about 5 error windows that come up.

Please help,

/me

Gauges made for FS98 will not work in FSX. Those error messages
will give you the name of the gauge(s) that are not FSX compatible.

You would need to find a replacement gauge made for FSX ( XML gauge )
of FS2002 gauges.

You can check a gauges version by right-clicking on the gauge file,
select "Properties" and ten "Version".
If it says "FS98" then it will not work in FSX.

The versions of the 707 that I have seen use a gauge file that contains
a good majority of the panel gauges. Thus, it will take alot of searching
and replacing of those various gauges and it may not be possible to
do that completely.

There is a B707-420 made for FSX by Alejandro Rojas Lucena ( Alrot ).
You would be better off getting that one instead of the one made for FS9.

 Paul

Gauges made for FS98 will not work in FSX. Those error messages will give you the name of the gauge(s) that are not FSX compatible.

This much I knew, but when I run the 707 it doesn't say which gauge, only that it's too early and made by Andreas Jaros.

You would need to find a replacement gauge made for FSX ( XML gauge )
of FS2002 gauges.

Thus the purpuse of my original msg.

[quote]You can check a gauges version by right-clicking on the gauge file, select "Properties" and ten "Version".

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First...a caution: Due to the difficulty in recovering FSX default files, NEVER overwrite any default files unless you have made backups first.

Second...a question: are you running FSX w/Acceleration? I'm curious as none of the gauges (from downloads 2 or 3) throw errors with FSX SP2.

Once you have the 707 installed, copy all .gau and .cab

[quote]First...a caution: Due to the difficulty in recovering FSX default files, NEVER overwrite any default files unless you have made backups first.

Second...a question: are you running FSX w/Acceleration? I'm curious as none of the gauges (from downloads 2 or 3) throw errors with FSX SP2.

Once you have the 707 installed, copy all .gau and .cab

[quote][quote]First...a caution: Due to the difficulty in recovering FSX default files, NEVER overwrite any default files unless you have made backups first.

Second...a question: are you running FSX w/Acceleration? I'm curious as none of the gauges (from downloads 2 or 3) throw errors with FSX SP2.

Once you have the 707 installed, copy all .gau and .cab

I'll look for Alejandro's 707, but I should point out that the hype that came on Simviation main page last month said that the 2009 707 was FSX ready....that's why I was so suprised at all of the old gauge callouts.

/me

The plane is a true FSX-SDK SP2 Model and you can find it in my site

http://www.simviation.com/fsnd/Downloads.htm



there will be another release this week a b727-200 but as a true FSX model too

:-/ Gotta fix that Download HTML area looks bad

The 3 downloads I have installed for this aircraft are from SimV's FSX-Civil Jets-pages 62 and 63. 1-the aircraft, 2 and 3 the gauge packs. None of the gauges throw errors, all are from or compiled for FS2004.

Did you download the ac from somewhere else, or install any previoius version, or any gauges/gauge packs for pervious versions?

What gauges/gauge packs did you have installed initially?..when the errors first occured.

Have you gotten these errors when installing any other addon ac?

From what I've been able to find, when this aircraft was originally upgraded to FSX, the panel was aliased

The 3 downloads I have installed for this aircraft are from SimV's FSX-Civil Jets-pages 62 and 63. 1-the aircraft, 2 and 3 the gauge packs. None of the gauges throw errors, all are from or compiled for FS2004.

Did you download the ac from somewhere else, or install any previoius version, or any gauges/gauge packs for pervious versions?

I downloaded the ac from simviation on 1/27/09.

What gauges/gauge packs did you have installed initially?..when the errors first occured.

Whatever was in the pack.

If you only had the ac (1B707V09.zip) installed (neither of the gauge packs) when you first got the errors, then the errant gauges are likely in your main ..\gauges\ folder. To check, remove all of the gauge files (.cab and .gau) from the ..\panel\ folder. Load the aircraft and see if you still get the errors. Let me know the results.

Shift+4 is a compass, Shift+5 is some autopilot controls. Both are empty in my install as they are from gauge files not included in the 3 downloads.

Dave

Append: sent you a PM-2/20-10:25amCST

If you only had the ac (1B707V09.zip) installed (neither of the gauge packs) when you first got the errors, then the errant gauges are likely in your main ..\gauges\ folder. To check, remove all of the gauge files (.cab and .gau) from the ..\panel\ folder. Load the aircraft and see if you still get the errors. Let me know the results.

Shift+4 is a compass, Shift+5 is some autopilot controls. Both are empty in my install as they are from gauge files not included in the 3 downloads.

Dave

Append: sent you a PM-2/20-10:25amCST

Knowing that shift4 is a compass and shift5 is AP stuff may help, but I think the problem lies in the gauge callouts for the pg.707, from what I can tell...and I'm no expert.

After Googling one of the pg.707 callouts, the best I can tell is that the "pg" was used in older versions of FS, maybe 2002 or before.

-SNIP-

Knowing that shift4 is a compass and shift5 is AP stuff may help, but I think the problem lies in the gauge callouts for the pg.707, from what I can tell...and I'm no expert.

After Googling one of the pg.707 callouts, the best I can tell is that the "pg" was used in older versions of FS, maybe 2002 or before.  That still may not help recreate the needed corrections for a for good working version of this 2009 707.

So, unless we can come up with details on what the pg.707 is, we might have to end this thread and call it a lost cause.

/me

"pg" stands for "Paul Golding" ...those gauges were developed for a
prior FS B707 and most likely will not work in FSX, as I recall.

It seems that others have sucessfuly downloaded and installed
the B707 version you are having problems with.

Perhaps it is best to delete it and start the installtion process
over again. Be SURE to place ALL gauges for that installation
in the aircrafts PANEL folder. That way there is no chance that
another version in your main GAUGES folder will cause problems,
unless of course the panel.cfg file is in error.

   Paul

Excuse me butting in here. If this is no help then I won't be offended if you tell me to go away. I checked this aircraft out some time ago. Just to make sure we're talking about the same one the file name is 1B707V09.zip. A Panel.cfg for FSX is included in the folder named "files for fsx". This should be pasted into the Panel folder of the 707.

Now for the extra gauges. The file named 2b707gauges.zip contains a total of 5 gauges in 2 separate folders. These are named B737_800.cab, F27_Brk_Hdl.gau, FAL_AP.cab, ST_Dash.CAB & cpt.toggles.steel.cab. Paste all 5 gauges into the Panel folder of the 707.

The file named 3FS9Gauges.zip contains another 5 gauges that appear to be FS9 default files. (It would have made things so much easier if these had been included with FSX in the first place. ) It should be possible to paste these into your FSX\Gauges folder without any conflicts. They will also be recognised from the Panel folder of the 707 but only for this particular aircraft.

I only have the FSX Demo so I don't know if any other gauges are missing or required.