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Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:05 pm
by squall12990
Are there any graphical scenery design programs that DO NOT rely on cordinates or a i.q. of 185+???  I just want a really simple scenery design program for fs2k2 and cfs2+1.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:44 pm
by RollerBall
No

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:13 pm
by squall12990
Surprised I am not.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:15 pm
by squall12990
Well are there any graphical design programs that do???  I may just use slew mode to find out what the cordinates are.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:23 pm
by Hagar
I'm no rocket scientist & I find FSSC easy enough to use. http://fssc.avsim.net/
Of course, you have to spend a little time learning the ropes like anything else worthwhile. Read the included tutes & try a few test pieces. You should soon get the hang of it.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:01 pm
by RollerBall
Doug, as you know I've always been a fan of FSSC and I've used it to do Kai Tak

However, Airport version 3 which is just out is IMHO now streets ahead and I would thoroughly recommend it.

I've used it for my carrier package (now in test) and done things I couldn't do in FSSC. Also Tom has already taken up some of the stuff from the new SDK and is working towards the total design package that I always predicted would be the next step. I predict he will beat Lee Swordy to it ;)

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:29 pm
by FaxCap
I agree, Airport for Windows 3.0 (build 188 is the latest) is excellent! Also the price is perfect....free! :)

Also, Tom has started a program called SceneGenX which will be the XML version of AFW. It's in Alpha right now at build 3. I have already placed some scenery with it and it worked great.



FaxCap

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:15 am
by Hagar
Doug, as you know I've always been a fan of FSSC and I've used it to do Kai Tak

However, Airport version 3 which is just out is IMHO now streets ahead and I would thoroughly recommend it.

Thanks Roger & FaxCap for your comments. I have nothing but respect for Tom & the guys for what they're doing with Airport. However, I've always found it difficult to understand. I'm sure I'm not alone & suspect this has put many people off scenery design in the past. I would recommend FSSC to newbies as I'm sure they would find it much easier to understand & work with than Airport. Like most things it gets easier once you understand the basic principles. ;)

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:12 pm
by squall12990
Can you build mountains in FSSC???

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:22 pm
by Hagar
No. You would need a terrain mesh utility. These are available but the others will know more about them than me.  FSSC & Airport are basically used for creating/updating airports.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:29 pm
by Stratobat
Can you build mountains in FSSC


You could probably build simple mountains with no slopes, but it wouldn't look all that great :-/

Have a look at FS Terrain :)

http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/programs/fstrn.htm

PS... I think you can also use Ground 2k.

Regards,
Stratobat

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:36 pm
by squall12990
Guess what...   I tried to download Airport 2.10 and winzip tells me that it is not a valid archive once it is downloaded!!!  It is also 244kb in size as aposed to the 5.3mb that it says on the scenery design page on simviation.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:43 pm
by squall12990
NM I found it.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:19 am
by Hagar
I tried to download Airport 2.10

You're missing the point. Read what RollerBall & FaxCap said.
Airport version 3 which is just out

I agree, Airport for Windows 3.0 (build 188 is the latest)

http://www.airportforwindows.com/

I still think you would find FSSC easier to learn the basics. Then you can progress to Airport if you wish.

Re: Simple scenery design.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:57 pm
by Daz
do u think guys before long that lee swordy will update afcad to create buildings and so forth??