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Abacus Airport & Scenery designer

Postby OzY » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:55 pm

Hi anyone use this product and if so will it work in FS2004?? ???
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Re: Abacus Airport & Scenery designer

Postby Hagar » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:28 pm

Never tried it myself. Not sure it's been updated for FS9 so you would have to check the Abacus site. Have you tried the freeware alternatives? I think they're all very similar.
FSSC. http://fssc.avsim.net/ Not fully FS9-compatible but it's fine for general scenery design if used in conjuction with AFCAD.
Airport for Windows. http://www.airportforwindows.com/ I'm told this has some FS9 features. It's being continually updated & I find it less user-friendly than FSSC. Others may tell you different. This is my own opinion & I'm not a serious scenery designer.
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Re: Abacus Airport & Scenery designer

Postby maskrider_01 » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:10 pm

Hi Hagar and Ozy,

I was just doing my weekly fly by and noticed this post.

I am a long time FSSC user and am quite happy with it. Derek has made many improvements along the way and in its current configuration a conscientious user can turn out some darn fine looking scenery with FSSC.

I had never used Airport before. After reading your post I went ahead and downloaded it and got it installed. I haven't done much with it yet but what I have seen I definitely like.

It is different than FSSC in several ways: some differences on the plus side some on the negative, IMHO.

A big huge plus for Airport, as far as I am concerned, is the ability in Airport, to get directly into the scasm code of a scenery object from the layout window and make alteration before compilation. With FSSC, tweaking the scasm code for the objects such as polygons and runways, must be done after compilation and then the tweaked sca files must be recompiled using a scasm compiler batch file. So, I think this is a very neat thing about Airport.

On the negative side,  and like I said this observation about Airport may be due to my inexperienced eye than to any actual difference, Airport seems to offer no way of selecting more than one object at a time. You can select all of the points in a polygon but you can not select all of the polygons along with all of the other objects- not even by Ctrl + right-clicking on them. There is no way to drag a noose around everything and select it all either. You would want to do this when you have everything in place and wish to fix everything in position- position lock everything. Which brings up another thing- far as I can see, Airport has no way to position lock items.

On the plus side, Airport makes it much easier to scale and position a background image. Airport has a very nice user friendly interface for scaling and accurately positioning background images.

On the negative side, Airport gives the user no option, as far as I can see, of positioning objects to true headings- this is a pain in the neck IMHO.

Finally, also on the negative side, is that it doesn't seem to be quite as easy to move around the layout window in Airport as it is in FSSC. However, this may be due totally to my lack of working experience with Airport. FSSC is my standard so anything different seems less intuitive- but my intuitions are based on FSSC, so I could be wrong!  ;D

Anyway, I like Airport in spite of what I perceive to be its short comings. Its advantages make up for them. I intend to build a couple of airfields with Airfport and see how it goes.

Thanks for the link, Hagar, and OzY, good luck in your scenery making endeavours.

Cheers,
Chris
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Re: Abacus Airport & Scenery designer

Postby maskrider_01 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:28 am

Well, after a bit more horsing around I take back what I said about being able to tweak the sca code for runways directly from the layout screen in Airport. You can't. It just seems that you can- when engaging inwishful thinking.

Now, I can not say that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Its back to FSSC and hand tweaking the sca code.

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Re: Abacus Airport & Scenery designer

Postby Hagar » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:49 am

Thanks for the detailed report Chris. Very helpful. I've tried your excellent scenery & value your opinions. Your feedback is always appreciated. ;)
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