Non-transparent panel glass?

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Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:18 am

I've added this question to a previous post on the design forum... but I think `Scenery & Panel design` is more appropriate... so sorry for repeating myself  ::)

Could someone please tell me if there is a default pallet transparency colour for panel bitmaps, or does it have to be defined somehow in a cfg file?

I have re-textured a model of a Pitts Special that was designed for FS2002, but in FS2004 the cockpit panel has totally black window areas, although the gauges & dials appear in their respective `windows` on the panel.
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Travis » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:03 pm

Are you talking about the VC or the regular panel?  If it is the VC, you can't change the transparency of that part because it was defined in the process of creating the model for the aircraft.
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:48 am

Thanks Ender Baron,

The virtual cockpit works fine, it`s the 2D panels that are all black where the glass is supposed to be. All the cockpit detail is there including the gauges (that work), I just can't see thru the window?

I've loaded the bitmap into Paintshop and checked the colour index, and it shows pallet register `0` for all the black areas. I know from previous experience that most bitmaps or PCX files use `0` as the default pallet transparency colour when used over a 3D background. So I'm a little confused as to why it's showing black? I've compared it to another panel from a working cockpit & that too shows `0` for it's transparent areas, so I've no idea why this one has no transparency?
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Sam 400 » Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:06 pm

If your using CfgEdt then jet black 100% is transparant, but I have seen some where they use bright pink!! but just check that it is black and not slightly grey.
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:12 pm

Thanks Sam,

I've checked the pallet registry values & they are:
R=0
G=0
B=0
It don't come no `blacker` than that  ::) not a hint of grey to be found lol!
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Han » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:07 pm

Most likely the file is not converted to 256 colors, or indexed if your working with Photoshop...
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:32 pm

Thanks HAN,

I checked that first... the file that came with the model (and doesn't work) is 16million colours... so I altered it to 256 with black being colour 0 in the index... needless to say that didn't fix the problem. So I resurected the 16m version & made it's colour 0 black... still no luck  ???
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Han » Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:12 pm

hmmm...Some graphic programs have a tendency not to allow you to alter a color in the colorswatch when it's an indexed file. Sometimes (Photoshop) you have to replace a color before it takes on a new color in the swatch. Otherwise have you got a link to that offending bitmap..? Or maybe check if it's a really old file if the upper left hand corner has a color pixel that shouldn't be there, meaning make it RGB 0. That was an old trick used during FS2000 (I think) to get some vidcards to display the bitmap that might cause the problems now...
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:50 am

Thanks Han I'll give that a try... then I'll give up on it lol!
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby N4733D » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:15 pm

Wow....sounds complicated. You may end up getting another panel to fix that, I woulda given up long ago. :P
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby Paul1033 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:47 pm

Saratoga... you have no idea!  :-/ lol

I've already given up!  ;)
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Re: Non-transparent panel glass?

Postby N4733D » Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:32 am

Lol. Hey I try! ;)
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