I would like to ask a special favor....

[NickN]

...If someone who is versed in panel/ aircraft.cfg work would like to take on a little project, I have one for you.



Simviation has a freeware P5 available but it is for FS2002/04

FS2004/2002 Martin SP-5B Marlin located on this page:

http://simviation.com/fs2004vintage96.htm


Bob70 who also flew with this aircraft in the Navy found this model and it works in FSX

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1213055568


unfortunately the panel gauges will not work in FSX and the aircraft needs some FSX love to get it up to snuff..

1. Edit the provided panel and replace FS8 gauges with (correct as possible) FSX versions

2. Edit the sound config to alias to the DC3 with instructions on how to alias to another sound if the user so desires

3. Edit the aircraft.cfg to comply with FSX and change the FX calls for FSX FX files

4. Edit the aircraft.cfg for contact points so the bow spray and wake FX work correctly and in the right location on the aircraft in FSX

5. Edit the aircraft.cfg for proper engine idle and torque and if you are versed in flight dynamics, a bit of work in that area as well. Some FD work would really be great and especailly on the correct lift/drag and drag in water TO/LDG

It looks to me to be a few days work with flight testing. The glass, animations and props are all working fine. it just needs a little FSX love to give it a rebirth.


I would do this and post a FSX update to go with the aircraft however I am very tied up with GEXn EU right now. I would not mind having this plane in my personal hangar and I know old salts like Bob70 would like to have it functioning correctly in FSX too.

[microlight]

Sorry, Nick - don't have FSX.

Good luck!

[Brett_Henderson]

I'm heading out the door in a few hours...  weekend flight around Lake Michigan.. If this has not been addressed by the time I return, I'd be happy take it on..

[NickN]

Brett.. that would be wonderful. I do have this posted at AVSIM and thus far no takers

I can run some numbers on the aerodynamics and see how they stack up to the original config however I know there are give and take areas with FS which differ

Here are specs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P5M_Marlin ... 28P5M-2.29



It would probably be nice to have some input from Bob70 about the aircraft and how it flew. Perhaps have him do test flights with her and let us know what he thinks to get her trimmed in on flight dynamics

I will post a PM to him pointing to this thread

EDIT: It looks to me like the aircraft model is the P5M-2G or 2S Marlin (note the tail design) which is a slightly different than the general P5M-2 but the specs are close enough to each other.

http://www.uscg.mil/history/WEBAIRCRAFT ... n_P5M.html

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/ ... p5m-2g.htm


images

http://www.coastcomp.com/av/pres/kistle ... 135533.htm

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6226480

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 479&nseq=1

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=441819&nseq=3

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 765&nseq=2


A repaint with some really nice weatherd textures and some upgrades to match the images would be really cool but I know that would be a job and 1/2. It would be nice if someone else with paint experience would want to perhaps upgrade her exterior with nice high res additions and some weathering.

[Alejandro Rhodes]

Nick , I didn't said anything ,because I'm not too good in aircraft.cfg in fact Is Brett who's making all my dynamics in my latest model..he's very good in this ..
in my earlier models before meet Brett ,my models, geometry , dynamics were exactly as the default models came ..only few changes in dynamics ..

You deserve all the help ,you been very nice with FSX users myself included..

Cheers

Alex

[NickN]

Nick , I didn't said anything ,because I'm not too good in aircraft.cfg in fact Is Brett who's making all my dynamics in my latest model..he's very good in this ..
in my earlier models before meet Brett ,my models, geometry , dynamics were exactly as the default models came ..only few changes in dynamics ..

You deserve all the help ,you been very nice with FSX users myself included..

Cheers

Alex

no problem Alex!  :)

[merculiv]

I can probably mod some gauges from the grumman goose and take flight dynamics from that since it seems like a close match. And then tweak them from there maybe. Would be a good start? I can show you some screenshots afterwards.

[NickN]

hmmmm

looking at a few numbers, the Goose would not represent this aircraft very well for flight dynamics due to the scale. Goose wing span is only 50ft compared to 117 and 1,406 sqft of surface compared to 375

This boat would not take off like the Goose in water... if memory serves me, and Bob would know better than me, most of the big boats require the pilot get the aircraft up on trim by forcing the stick forward a bit or they can not get airspeed however this hull is different than most bows I have seen and very unusual so it may cut the water much easier than most others.

I would need to research the plane and see if I can find any reports on flight dynamics and how it handled in TO.

Hey BOB!  when you read this.. how about a bit of a history lesson on this plane and how she handled?  :)

[merculiv]

I tried to match the gauges in the panel.cfg the best I could and I used the sound folder from the Grumman goose.  You can try this out for fun.  

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B26XI4EP

The texturing resolution in the VC is a bit low. But let me know what you think. Victor

merculiv@gmail.com

[NickN]

[quote]I tried to match the gauges in the panel.cfg the best I could and I used the sound folder from the Grumman goose.

[Bob70]

[quote]

hmmmm

looking at a few numbers, the Goose would not represent this aircraft very well for flight dynamics due to the scale. Goose wing span is only 50ft compared to 117 and 1,406 sqft of surface compared to 375

This boat would not take off like the Goose in water... if memory serves me, and Bob would know better than me, most of the big boats require the pilot get the aircraft up on trim by forcing the stick forward a bit or they can not get airspeed however this hull is different than most bows I have seen and very unusual so it may cut the water much easier than most others.

I would need to research the plane and see if I can find any reports on flight dynamics and how it handled in TO.

[b]Hey BOB!

[NickN]

[quote][quote]

hmmmm

looking at a few numbers, the Goose would not represent this aircraft very well for flight dynamics due to the scale. Goose wing span is only 50ft compared to 117 and 1,406 sqft of surface compared to 375

This boat would not take off like the Goose in water... if memory serves me, and Bob would know better than me, most of the big boats require the pilot get the aircraft up on trim by forcing the stick forward a bit or they can not get airspeed however this hull is different than most bows I have seen and very unusual so it may cut the water much easier than most others.

I would need to research the plane and see if I can find any reports on flight dynamics and how it handled in TO.

[b]Hey BOB!

[Brett_Henderson]

The Warrior I'm taking (the one I bought into), had to be pulled into the FBO to have the prop taken off and the hollow crankshaft inspected. I will go into its 100 hour inspection time limit on this flight. Since it won't used for instruction, that's OK.. except that DARN crankshaft has and Airworthiness Directive that HAD to be taken care of before taking it cross-country. Needless to say, I won't be leaving until early Friday.

Good thing is that I got to come back here and see the enthusiasm about this project. I'm itching to dive in right now, but I'm up to my web-page-ears in weather/flight planning

[NickN]

[quote]I tried to match the gauges in the panel.cfg the best I could and I used the sound folder from the Grumman goose.

[NickN]

[quote]The Warrior I'm taking (the one I bought into), had to be pulled into the FBO to have the prop taken off and the hollow crankshaft inspected. I will go into its 100 hour inspection time limit on this flight. Since it won't used for instruction, that's OK.. except that DARN crankshaft has and Airworthiness Directive that HAD to be taken care of before taking it cross-country. Needless to say, I won't be leaving until early Friday.

Good thing is that I got to come back here and see the enthusiasm about this project. I'm itching to dive in right now, but I'm up to my web-page-ears in weather/flight planning