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My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:15 pm
by Berserk
Hi all

I'm working in the plane of my thesis as Aeronautic Engineer, the external model is semi-done however how this is the first time than i make the flight dynamics (and is working very well ;D) i have 2 problems so far.

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1. When i'm at the runway and i have the parking brake on the plane begun to shake out of control and in some moment she begun to jump since one place to other at some meters  :o

2. Even if i cut the throttle she have enought power to start to move and take off   :-?

How can i fix this problems?????

Please, Please Help

Thanks for all

Berserk    

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:20 pm
by Felix/FFDS
BOUNCING BETTY RETURNS!

The first issue is to check your contact points - AND how stiff you've set the "springs".... make them stiffer.  It may be that the contacts points aren't resting the complete static weight of the aircraft....

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:58 pm
by Berserk
Hi Felix

I check the springs but everything is inside the common  :-?

Nose Gear

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Main Gear

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I check all the possible combinations, even I put the static compression, compression ratio and dumping ratio since 0 to 10 but is not enough :'( :'( :'( :'(

I dont know what else i can do  :-/ :-/ :-/

i want my mom  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Regards

Berserk

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:26 pm
by microlight
Try increasing the moment of inertia figures in the aircraft.cfg - jumping around on the ground can happen if they are set too low.

Also, try decreasing the thrust value in the [TurbineEngineData] section to see if that affects your over-powered situation.

;)

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:22 pm
by Berserk
Try increasing the moment of inertia figures in the aircraft.cfg - jumping around on the ground can happen if they are set too low.

Also, try decreasing the thrust value in the [TurbineEngineData] section to see if that affects your over-powered situation.

;)


Hi buddy

Do you know how the FSEdit calculated the moments???? with Aircraft Container Manager i get one value but with FSEdit i get another with the same values  :-?

With the engine, i put the exactly values of the pt6-25c  :-?,

i'll follow your recomendations and i'll told you the results

Best Regards

Berserk

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:23 pm
by Berserk
The problem of the engine can be fix changing the static thrust since 2396 pounds to around 100 pounds, but in my thesis i get the value of 2396  :-? :-? :-? :-?

Also i can fix the problem of the jump changing the values of the moments of inertia, i have

4004
1643
4101
0

i found this values with Aircraft Container Manager, however if i changed them as you say to a values around 15000 the problem on the ground disappear but when i'm flying the plane tend to skid like the sukhoi at the cobra with the tail in front   :-/ :-/ :'( :'( :'(

I dont know what else do  :'( :'( :'(

This is my thesis, The Dragon

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Best Regards

Berserk

Re: My plane is shaking on the ground, Please Help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:07 am
by microlight
Phew - just got back from a real-world transatlantic round trip in a couple of 777s!

I abandoned FSEdit back in my FS2002 days - one of the worst pieces of add-on FS software IMHO.

Try reducing the empty_weight_yaw_MOI figure to stop the skidding effect you mention. Reduce it gradually back to its original value and see when the problem stops.

;)