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I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:15 pm
by Falcon500
???canopys???..........whatever

I was wondering if im close enough, this is my first aircra, well it my first anything!

For the most part I am refering to the canopy i have work to do on the wings, tail, spinner, guns, doors, VC (hopefully), landing gear, flaps, ailerons, rudder, doors, windows (possibly), and prop.  ::) just a short list of to do's  :P

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sorry about the compression, funny it's mostly on the tail ::)

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:15 am
by alrot
I think is looking wonderfull

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:12 am
by Falcon500
Thanks, I have been working on this awhile, and now i notice the two sides dont have symmetry  ::)

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:50 pm
by cloud9
A P-39  :D

I've wanted a good one forever

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:19 pm
by Milton
Yes, canopies are certainly a challenge that requires some thought.  My preference is to model the fuse as perfect as possible, then make templates to do a boolean to Cut/Refine the windows.  Do not remove the glass polys.  Simply detach and texture.  BTW, symmetry is easily attained if you model  half the fuselage, then clone it when done.  Attach the new half and weld the vertices.

Let me point you to a tutorial that may provide some insight in how to do these things well by a seasoned 3D designer.

http://forums.netwings.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2358

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:23 pm
by Falcon500
Milton did i ever tell you, that i love you  :-*

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:53 pm
by Falcon500
uh..... how do i turn a scene file into an mdl so i can preview my work (in FS9) ?

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:26 pm
by Falcon500
So Milton what you are trying to say is make this

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than make the side profile of the canopy glass and "cut" it out of the Fuselage???

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 am
by Milton
Yes, make template objects perfected to the shape of the glass of the canopy.

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:57 pm
by Falcon500
Where do i find the Boolean toggle?

I seardched and i cant find any button ???

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:23 pm
by Milton
Select your fuselage and have you template available.
Click the white Create Icon.
On the right side at the top of the rollout, click on the down arrow next to Standard Primitives, select Compound Objects.

You will see the Boolean button.

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:08 pm
by Falcon500
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well there is your updated, (BTW how do i make more than one boolean, without making a "hole through a cardboard box" )

and my update

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:34 pm
by Milton
Sorry, I do not understand your question.  What are you trying to do or accomplish?

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:57 pm
by Falcon500
The last pic i posted,

the hole closest to "us" looks more like it was cut out of a solid object, where the other holes look like they were cut out of an empty box,

and the opposite side is clear

Re: I HATE bubble canopies

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:50 pm
by Milton
You obviously did that cut as a Subtract operation instead of a Reference/Cut/Refine.

Not a problem.  Simply turn on edges, select and delete those polys.

I recommend that you take two different sized boxes for practrice, and experiment with the different kinds of operations so that you understand them better.  There is good explanation of them in the Gmax Help.