Starting engines #'s seem wrong?

[JBaymore]

When I do a manual startup of the four engines on my BAe 146-200, it appears that the placement of engine #1, #2, #3, and #4 is incorrect.

[Felix/FFDS]

Check the [GeneralEngineData] section of the aircraft.cfg file.  Engine.1 position should be your inside left (coordinates are z,x,y), so that the second number should be negative.



[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 0
Engine.0= 6.080, -26.080, 1.500
Engine.1= 8.660, -12.330, 1.000     <--- Left inside engineEngine.2= 8.660, 12.330, 1.000
Engine.3= 6.080, 26.080, 1.500
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.000
min_throttle_limit=0.000000

[microlight]

Hi Felix.

John's made an interesting point here, because the auto-starting sequence (Ctrl+E) doesn't seem to have any bearing on the engine locations in the cfg file. My BAe 146s should start in the sequence 3241 according to the lateral locations in the cfg file (14, -14,22,-22), but from the 2D cockpit view they always start 1,2,3,4 - and from spot view outside, they start 1,3,2,4! Not sure if this is a 'feature' of FS9...

To complicate things further, manually starting the engines in the cockpit doesn't help. Engine 3 switch starts port outboard (1) in spot view,  2 starts starboard inboard (3), 4 starts starboard outboard (4) and 1 starts port inboard (2). So switch 4 seems to be the only one that start the correct engine!

Curiouser and curiouser.

[Milton]

The engines are named in the model, 0-3 equating to 1-4.  Regardless of how you define them position-wise in the cfg, they will start the way they are named in the model, 0,1,2,3 (1,2,3,4) when cntrl+e is used.  All other engine related programming is connected to how the modeled engines are named.

[JBaymore]

John's made an interesting point here, because the auto-starting sequence (Ctrl+E) doesn't seem to have any bearing on the engine locations in the cfg file.

microlite,

Aside from getting some of the details wrong......

[microlight]

Thanks, Milton - it hadn't occurred to me that it might be a model issue.

[JBaymore]

[quote]Check the [GeneralEngineData] section of the aircraft.cfg file.

[JBaymore]

Felix + all,

OK.... just checked the engine positions on the Murchison BAe -146-200 model in ACM, and then also on the newer "Strategic" military model too.

[Milton]

In the model, you can certainly number them any way you want to achieve start sequence.  A giveaway might be to see what cntrl+e does.  That should tell you the sequence of the modeled numbers.

Then, of course, with gauge programming, you can alter the start sequence manually (or redefine what is displayed vs what engine is started 1=3, 2=4, 3=1, 4=2), or through selecting the engine (e+2 as an example), then start.

In the cfg, there is no way to my knowledge to change anything except engine location.  That will not change the start sequence as far as I know.

[JBaymore]

It is clear to me now, that Jon Murchison apparently set the engines up in the model so that the Control+E autostart sequence would start the engines in the order that they are done in the "real world".