Citation Excel Project

[jlvandem]

Ok guys I've been doing some thinking. I've decided I'm not gonna scrap the project for the Excel yet. Instead I'd like to start a group of designers to help me work on making all of the Cessna Citations. We'd start by finishing off my work I've got done on the Excel then we could decide which Citation to do later. I'm looking for people who are still learning like me so we can help each other out and improve our work together. Here's what I'm looking for.

-1 or 2 aircraft modellers.
-1 or 2 people to work on the panels which would include making custom gauges if necessary.
-1 or 2 people to work on texturing.
-1 person to make a good collection of sounds for the aircaft. If we don't find someone we'll probally just use the Lear jet sounds.
-1 person to make and maintain a website for our team. (A free server like geocities would be fine with me.)

Just post if you're intrested and we'll get the team together!!!

[Katahu]

Don't forget about the DVC (Dynamic Virtual Cockpit). I can help with that and its full animations.

All I need is some information on the interiors. Photo images or diagrams.

As for the sound. Maybe you can get a copy of the sounds from CFS3 (if you have CFS3). There are 2-engine jets in that simulator (such as the Me-262). The are also single-engine jets as well (such as the P-80).

If you want, you can borrow the *.air and aircraft.cfg files from the Learjet in FS2002 or 2000. However, you might want to be careful when ajusting the contact and static height.

If you're not careful, you'll see your plane move around in strange ways. I am still going through this problem for Project Have Blue.

[jlvandem]

Thanks for the tips Katahu. Also thanks for reminding me of the DVC! Stupid me I forgot all about it. If you want I could try to get some pictures of the cockpit for you off airliners.net and if you have Quicktime the Cessna website should have a 3D tour of the cockpit for the Excel. E-mail me at jlvandem@hotmail.com and I'll send you back all I can find out. Thanks.

Justin

[Oz]

good to hear youve reconsidered jlvandem  ;)

[EirePlane]

I could help with the site and furnishings in the cabin

[jlvandem]

Ok Erie plane. I've got Katahu working on the VC right now. I'll send you a copy of the current model I have so you can do the interiors. I'll send you one also Katahu. As for the site could you throw something together with Cessna Citation stuff on it? Then the team could work together on fine tuning it. Right now we have Katahu working on the DVC and you'll be working on the interior and website. We just need a few more people now.

Justin

[Oz]

makin a website is a jiff, heck i can do it if you want  ;)
Probably geocities, got an idea on the group name or a name for the site? (geocities.com/_?_)

[jlvandem]

Hmm that's a good question what should we call our group? I was thinking something like The Citation Project but I really don't know.  Any ideas are welcome!!!

Justin

[Oz]

Cessna Crew
Citation Crew

all i can think of really..

[Katahu]

Here's my first pic on the Excel. Kind of early, don't you think?  ;)

Since I'm not quite sure of any of your opinions towards this idea, I decided not to Collapse the Modifiers in the Modifier Stack (upper-right corner).



The best way to avoid any perminant mistakes is through this method I use.

1. Any project that is brand new, and is in its starting phase of construction, should have the term Your_Plane_LevelXX (where X is a number like 01, 02, etc.).

2. As you progress through the next phase of construction, such as completing the fuselage, save the project as a different level (ex: From Your_Plane_Level01 to Your_plane_level02).

This way, if you make any major mistake that ruins the project at a certain level, you can always go to the previous level and continue from there.

As for the web title, how does "www.geocities.com/gmax_citation_crew.com" sound?

[Oz]

yeah 'Gmax Citation Crew' sounds nice. Ill wait for the go ahead from jlvandem and start workin on it

[Oz]

I found a nice panel pic of a Citation jet. Its not of the Excel model (i found an excel panel pic but its not good) but theres very little difference between them. Anyways you can use it on any other project in the works..



Had to modify it a little but you tell me what you think and ill get started.

[jlvandem]

Hey guys that sounds like a great name the GMAX Citation Crew. Oz you could go ahead and start the website if you'd like. Katahu that DVC looks incredible so far! Once you get it done could you add it to the model that I sent you? It's looking great! EriePlane let us know how the interior is coming. As for the exterior I'd like to start working more on it but I'm having trouble modeling the landing gear. There aren't many pics of it available and I just don't know where to start on it. Thanks guys!

Justin

[jlvandem]

  Hey guys I think we've got a small problem  :-X See when I went to do the windows on the model that I've sent everyone I didn't quite understand what I was doing with the boolean operations so instead of cutting out polygons for the windows I just cut big holes in the side of the fuselage then made a copy of the original fuselage and shrunk it a bit and put a transparent material over it so it would appear that I had transparent windows. Now I've figured out how to make the windows a seperate part instead of cutting in a hole. If you guys who have a copy of the model you'll see what I'm talking about. So I was wondering do you guys think I should redo the fuselage with the correct style windows or should we continue on with what we've got? Changing the windows shouldn't take to long.
   Now for my second question. Look at the pic below...

How do I attach the highlighted part to the fuselage? If I redo the fuselage this wouldn't be important but still I'd like to know how to connect to parts into one.
 
BTW Katahu thanks for the tip on multiple saves. It would've saved me a lot of time in correcting the windows so I'll be using the method from now on.
Thanks!

Justin

[Oz]

Well i cant help on the Gmax question, sorry. But with regards to the site, what font you want the logo letters to have? (I want to be very specific