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so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:43 am
by liran_bar
Hi,
I am working on an aircraft, and I can't find any important information about it!
all I have is the wingspan and the size of the cockpit!
What should I do (there is no sketch of the plane)?


Liran Bar, Israel

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:57 am
by Oz
what is the name of the plane?

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:18 am
by liran_bar
It was confidential untill now.... but why not...:

White Knight


www.scaled.com


any ideas?


Liran Bar, Israel

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:23 am
by Oz
Thats gonna be a hard one to find. My best suggestion: do a search on http://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q= and http://www.altavista.com/image/default

good luck

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:27 am
by liran_bar
already done that.... the problem is the "white knight" is also a piece in chess....


any other ideas?

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:36 am
by Hagar
That should be easy enough. Narrow down the search criteria by adding key words. For example, adding just one word white knight aircraft brought this up at the top of a long list. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/17/1
Here's another one.
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/rutan_scaled_0304187.html

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:43 am
by Rifleman
You might try adding " Rutan "

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:12 am
by liran_bar
what I really need is measurements....
especially of the wings, booms, enginges, windows.... I got nothing!

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:07 am
by SilverFox441
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/

http://www.xprize.org/


Not quite enough info...

Maybe you should drop a line to Scaled Composites?

Just ask for what you need. :)

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:15 am
by Felix/FFDS
You have the 85ft wingspan - from there, you can estimate the rest... from the front view, and the reasonably good top view photos, you can reasonably estimate the rest...



Hi,
I am working on an aircraft, and I can't find any important information about it!
all I have is the wingspan and the size of the cockpit!
What should I do (there is no sketch of the plane)?


Liran Bar, Israel

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:18 am
by liran_bar
Maybe you should drop a line to Scaled Composites?

Just ask for what you need. :)


Already done that.... they say it's confidential. and every thing they can say is on their website.....



Liran Bar, Isael

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:17 pm
by SilverFox441
I guess if they won't cooperate you will have to scale it the way Felix suggests...use the known measrement to derive the others. More effort, but it will work.

I remember seeing one of the pics where you have a great nose on view...that will let you position the booms, etc...

You should also search for White Knight here: http://www.aviationnow.com/

The website of Aviation Week & Space Technology...they have some good info. :)

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:20 am
by liran_bar
Wouldn't that be inaccurate? It will be noticable wouldn't it?
and there are other stuff I need for the air file that I can't guess, such as V1 V2 and the pich alt on the ground......


Liran Bar, Israel

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:30 am
by Hagar
Wouldn't that be inaccurate? It will be noticable wouldn't it?
and there are other stuff I need for the air file that I can't guess, such as V1 V2 and the pich alt on the ground......


Liran Bar, Israel

So who is qualified to contradict you? With a huge amount of prize money at stake the manufacturer is understandably keeping quiet.
The company plans to use the craft to compete for the X Prize, a $10 million cash prize that will be awarded to the first team
that successfully launches three people to an altitude of 62.5 miles (100 kilometers) returns the safely to Earth and then repeat that feat with the same vehicle within two weeks


This is the main problem with trying to model any top secret project.

Re: so little visual information!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:43 am
by liran_bar
yeah... that's an expensive prize isn't it? ;D

OK I will try to be as acurate as I can....




Liran Bar, Israel