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Turbocharging

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:04 pm

Hello all,

I have a question. I am trying to turbocharge the default C182. Not only to make it a little faster (I would like it to reach 160knts) but also to reach a higher altitude. Now I found out that changing the zero in: turbocharged= 0                                 //Is it turbocharged? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE into 1 will provide a turbocharger (thanks Jakemaster) but what else do I need to change? All 'turbo' airplanes also have values for Max_design_mp and Min_design_mp. What do these values mean and what should I put there?

Thanks in advance.

Crash ;)
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby wealthysoup » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:22 pm

its basically how powerfull your turbocharger will be...I believe the lower the min_design_mp is and higher the max_design_mp is the more powerful your turbo will be...i think. Pick the standard cessna 208 grand caravans aircraft cfg and copy the turbo over from it...that should do for flying in the rockies
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Fozzer » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:31 pm

its basically how powerfull your turbocharger will be...I believe the lower the min_design_mp is and higher the max_design_mp is the more powerful your turbo will be...i think. Pick the standard cessna 208 grand caravans aircraft cfg and copy the turbo over from it...that should do for flying in the rockies


Remember the Cessna 208 is a Turbo-prop aircraft with a turbine engine driving the propeller
Not a Piston prop aircraft with a turbo-charged reciprocating piston engine turning the propeller.... ;)...!

Paul...I hate Turbo-Props... ;)...LOL... ;D...!

A turbo-charger is is a belt driven, or exhaust driven air compressor fitted to a standard piston engine to force air under pressure into the manifold air intake to increase the engine's efficiency and therefore it's horse-power...
...it's done on motor car engines... ;)...!
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:47 pm

A turbine powered by exhaust gasses that in turn drives a turbine that pressurizes intake air is a turbo-charger.. if it's mechanically driven, it's a super-charger.

Realistic numbers for a Turbo 182 would be close to what I put in my 210..

turbocharged= 1
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:19 pm

Thanks for your comments. Brett, I will try you suggestions. See what it will become.

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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Fozzer » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:21 am

Our Drag-Strip motor bikes are fitted with belt driven, or direct driven, Shorrocks or Roots Super-chargers as fitted to the 1934 Bently 4-1/2 litre car...
...and my 1931 Riley 9 Brooklands Grand Prix racing car... 8)...!

But for exhaust driven "Turbo-Chargers", look here...>>>

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:00 am

I put the numbers Brett suggested in the aircraft.cfg. It's working fine. I also increased the cylinder displacement to 95 cu. inches to get more speed out of it. Max altitude is now 20000 feet, speed is well over 160 knots. Flying the Rockies with ease.

Crash ;)
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Brett_Henderson » Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:24 am

Isn't it fun doing realistic modifications  ?

(I always picture myself actually in a hangar, with the engine out and on a stand... me working on it .. lol)

I wouldn't have gone as far as upping the cylinder displacement though.. That's akin to putting a 210 engine in a 182.. (which is theoretically possible, but not worth the air-worthiness certification head-ache)..

29-30 inches of boost and an additional 100-150 (not 1000 - 1500) rpm would give you realistic, turbo Skylane performance... just as if you had done the modification on a real plane.

There are plenty of references out there for performance numbers.. Like when I started tinkering with t-charging the Baron. It' would have been easy to just "pump" up the MP and go faster. I wanted real-world numbers and performance.. I even went as far as modifying the MP gauge to read realistically.

On that note.. you can get the MP gauge out of my 210 (the original 2-D panel.. not the modified plane with a nice, but innacurate panel) and use it with your new, turbo 182 ..
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Re: Turbocharging

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:51 am

Thanks, Brett. I downloaded your C210p and updated the panel of the 182. Working nicely this way.

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