FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby laurits » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:55 am

Again...

Due respect to your unfathomable techie knowledge, but the stubbornness and arrogance you show time and time again in this field is getting tiresome, at least for ordinary FSX users like myself and probably thousands of others.

I believe my own eyes, and what they saw was OK, there IS a difference, a remarkable difference, and it's stupid of you to just brush it away like that!

Have a nice flight!
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:16 am

you're welcome!
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby Flight Ace » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:45 pm

[quote]





You threw a set of wild card variables into your test that makes the test beyond worthless for true compare

and I am going to get into it

[b] People have no idea what they are doing and ASSUMPTION with NO TECH EXPERIENCE TO TEST such things is the mother of all rumors.

Micrsoft loves it when people dont know what they are doing, it sells more OS's

Ever stop to think there are registry changes and settings items in W7 that are already set up (MS does learn sometimes) which require the user set the same ones up manually/correctly in XP so the OS's are equally tuned and the test is valid?

and XP would then be EQUAL or better???

No?
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby Flight Ace » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:46 am

I respect your tech experience and knowledge, but in this case you are wrong!

Just made 2 separate installs of FSX on the same HP Pavilion. (AMD Phenom 9650, 9600GT 512 Mb, 4x1 800 DDR2 Ram.)

No.1 with XP 64 bit OS

No.2 with Win7 Ult. 64 bit OS

No tweaks, no defrags.

Same settings on OS and FSX.

Loaded the default Trike at Friday Harbour.

Target Frame Rate: Unlimited

All other settings at the same level for both...

Result:

XP 64: FPS ranging from 32/36 to 48/52

Win 7 64: FPS ranging from 49/54 to 62/68 and an occasional hit in the 70's!

I'm not a tech guy, but I have a pair of extremely wellfunctioning eyes, and in this case there's no doubt:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit version, outperforms XP 64!

Maybe on lower- and medium spec PC's there's an advantage in using W7, I don't know, but if that's the case then your experience doesn't say much, because I would guess the last time you used or tested on such a machine was in the last century! No offense intended... ;)

BTW - I'm looking for at tweak to the CFG, so it's possible to see the average FPS. Anynone know this setting?








Laurits,

This is good news. Did you try any other areas like Seattle to compare the OSs? I am looking forward to W7 and am waiting for Microsoft to ship it which will be Oct 22nd or soon after. When I receive it, I intend to document and pass on how it compares with my current Vista 64bit OS. And my expectations are for some improvement. :)
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby laurits » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:55 am

Yes, even at KSEA there are improvements compared to XP 64, but I won't go into this anymore, cause the "Resident Guru" apparently does not like people to think and experience things themselves, WITHOUT having to be a tech geek!

You don't need any complicated, scientific-like set-up between those two OS's to see the difference IMO.

Good luck with the setup, will be interesting to hear more ppl's experiences and comments on this matter.
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:04 pm

Yes, even at KSEA there are improvements compared to XP 64, but I won't go into this anymore, cause the "Resident Guru" apparently does not like people to think and experience things themselves, WITHOUT having to be a tech geek!

You don't need any complicated, scientific-like set-up between those two OS's to see the difference IMO.

Good luck with the setup, will be interesting to hear more ppl's experiences and comments on this matter.









The person to whom you are referring, just like most who have PhD's with 40 years of lead engineering experience in their field, know arrogant, inexperienced, layman Bullchit when they read it [b][color=#000000]and people who do not know how to install a OS, set it up correctly and know what to do with patches
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby Flight Ace » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:41 pm

Yes, even at KSEA there are improvements compared to XP 64, but I won't go into this anymore, cause the "Resident Guru" apparently does not like people to think and experience things themselves, WITHOUT having to be a tech geek!

You don't need any complicated, scientific-like set-up between those two OS's to see the difference IMO.

Good luck with the setup, will be interesting to hear more ppl's experiences and comments on this matter.









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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:42 am

People can believe what they want to believe



Honestly?, I could care less



and laurits has been trying my patience in another forum in which he is one step away from being removed....

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... 722#183722

So as far as I am concerned I have no problem letting him have it...
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby Slotback » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:28 am

Nick - Should I turn Superfetch OFF in Windows 7?
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby laurits » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:39 am

Do you really expect him to answer that? :-?

Try it, and see for yourself!

People need to get off the dependency of the Guru, that's the same in real life when some dumb*sses completely give their minds and hard earned dough to types like Anthony Robbins and other loud mouths.. >:(

Here's some W7 tweaks:

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=8760

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate- ... #more-1957

W7 Manager:

http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/index.html

Enjoy!
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:19 am


Yes.. people are all dumb-asses for asking questions


and most of all they are dumb-asses for being cautious of dim-wits who make ridiculous statements such as FSX will never run smooth or without blue screens.





Then there are the dumb-asses that assume they are right without any understanding of what it is they are saying..
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby laurits » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:22 am

[quote]



People can believe what they want to believe



Honestly?, I could care less



and laurits has been trying my patience in another forum in which he is one step away from being removed....

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... 722#183722

So as far as I am concerned I have no problem letting him have it...
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:43 am

Judging by your idiotic comments here and in other forums, I bet you would say what you posted above word-for-word to a 30yr certified AL Pilot as they were trying to explain to you over the radio exactly how to land the plane after your pilot passed out in which you know as much about the aircraft you are flying as you know about computers... absolutely nothing

I'm sure surfin the net on a laptop in the cockpit would net you better instructions so you can be a individual thinker all the way down 'into' the ground



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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby pete » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:44 pm

Please guys try to remember we have a 'friendliness' policy here.

We do not want to go down the road of food throwing allowed. If you're eating in a restaurant you just want to eat and enjoy. It's exactly the same for visitors here at the SimV forums. 

Thanks  8-)
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Re: FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit

Postby NickN » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:53 pm

No problem Pete
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