Can this thing go faster?!?

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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby idahosurge » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:37 pm

We all have things that we like to do and right now you like to push your AMD.

I seem to get really involved in stuff for awhile and then move on to something else.  I just sit and wonder when I am going to get tired of tweaking and messing with my new PC, hopefully never!  Once I am sure that I am rock solid at 4.2GHZ I will probably try for 4.4GHz just to say I did it and then throttle it back down to 4.2GHz.

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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Thai09 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:56 pm

Yes, that's exactly what I do too... Weird, but nice.

I remember the thread where you got the advise from Nick, and I have saved it for future reference!

BTW: I've been looking for the Mushkin's Red Line here in Thailand, but no luck so far.   [smiley=sad.gif]

Looking forward to upgrade in a few months...
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:14 pm

[quote]We all have things that we like to do and right now you like to push your AMD.

I seem to get really involved in stuff for awhile and then move on to something else.
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:49 pm

http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=318&threadid=121873&STARTPAGE=68&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear&#lastunread

K, so there, I'm General Yeager, and have been getting good advice on how to really rock this chippy. I got a pretty high benchmark score (for NNNG) for my system, although I know if I ran a newer video card it would get a lot better.

By no means is that a record, I'm sure, but it is for me. THis test is after a tweak to 4.101 GHz and I'm trying to tweak this thing still in an attempt to get it to 4.2 and score it.

Wish me luck...

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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby idahosurge » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:39 pm

[quote]BTW: I've been looking for the Mushkin's Red Line here in Thailand, but no luck so far.
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:45 pm

So I been messin with this thing, and so far I can report 4.114 GHz. I think without volting the CPU past it's current value (1.515, and as far as I care to go) it may not go any faster. Looks like I'll have to hand the friggin trophy to ya, dang it! 4.2 > 4.11. You got me. (that was hard to say). >:(
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:59 pm

Well, after a little messin, I found that in order to go faster than 4.114 GHz, the voltage starts increasing rapidly, and I didn't like where 4.28 got me (1.68+V!! AAAAHHHHH!!!! Bios limits it to 1.75 with an "irreversible damage" warning) The temps weren't bad, only 58*, but it was by no means stable there, as it couldn't even start 3DMark 06 without exploding! So, I throttled back to 4.114, and that's the best I did with 1.512V. That's reasonable, and I can be ok with that. Afterall, that i7 950 (I think that's what Idaho got) is $370 more. I imagine it will go considerably faster. So, I digress. I throttled back to 4.1 GHz, and am going to stay there.

I will say IdahoSurge has, by far, theee fastest stable OC I have ever seen on an Air-cooled box. Great work, and I bet you could probably hit 4.4, just to brush off any future attempts by anyone other than an i7 975 xtreme user. I know that if I were you, I would be laughing (although under my breath) at some Speed-Of-Flight guy trying to crank up his li'l Phenom II to get me. Good work. I have found my limit, and ain't going to try any harder than I have.

I think, though the AMD folks had us enthusiasts in mind when they built the PhII 965. They had to have known that this chip would yield a stable 4.0 GHz. That's what I'm talkin' about! That's as fast as I need to go. I'm glad, though, that I made the attempt. They, however, need to get on the ball. Intel's i7's are KILLIN 'em, and they need to make something to really shake things up.

So, without any further adeu, I say:

CONGRATULATIONS, IDAHOSURGE!Image
You've won the OC competition before you even knew there was a race! There are no prizes, or bikini girls, but you get to tell all your friends that this is why to spend more on an Intel!

Now, I'm going to play some well-deserved FSX on this thing. It's been so long, I don't even remember my password!
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby fighter25 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:26 pm

Nice job.  :)
I love to overclock. I just sold my previous LGA775 rig to build my i7 rig and I had my E8400 at a stable 4.75GHz :) I had to do it with 1.4V, and do it outside, but she was on air. Other than that she ran at 4.5GHz with 1.35V on air inside fine.  :D I loved that rig, but the i7 is so much better.  8-)
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:14 am

Yeah, I'm no Encyclopedia Computica by any means, but with the knowledge I do have, even if I got 4.2 GHz stable out of this thing, the i7 architecture is way more capable than this Phenom II. The design is built for speed, and they are killin us! However, AMD will HOPEFULLY get their act together soon, and develop something to rival it with, like they did a few years ago. We've all been waiting patiently.

Moreso than most, I like to support the competition in this arena. Rather than just buy a product from a company I know and trust, I would rather help the competitor get their foot in the door. Their would be no i7 without the rivalry between the Intel C2Q and the AMD 9850 BE. I would like to see AMD reverse-engineer an i7 and learn from it. Not to copy it, but figure out how it starts at 2.66 GHz and can OC to 4.2+! Or, even better, just spend some time in R&D and develop their own equivalent...

As we all know, it's a WAR out there. AMD on one side, and you-know-who on the other. MY president is giving us food rations and RPG's to shoot down enemy helicopters, but theirs has [glow=yellow,2,300]NUKES[/glow]! Kind of an unfair advantage whe one looks at it like that. AMD should spend some time in the hangar, developing a new stealth bomber...
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Speed of flight » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:42 am

[quote]Nice job.
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby fighter25 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:50 pm

No, I had to do it when it was -2F outside.
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby Slotback » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:15 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 1.35v kill a 45nm Wolfdale rather quickly?
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Re: Can this thing go faster?!?

Postby fighter25 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:43 pm

1.35v is the max I ran at for 24/7 use.
But on the 4.75 or even higher run I went up to 1.4V which may have degraded the chip a little, but it was still good.
But like my motto says. "If you can't pay to replace it, you can't play."
If I had LN2 (Liquid nitrogen) I'm sure that chip would have gone way about 5.5GHz, but it would have taken upwards of 1.8V or more. Now this after about 5 sessions of overclocking and benchmarking will kill the chip. But your not out to get to a nice 24/7 useable overclock, your there to push it to the edge, and sometimes, you go too far. It's all about the thrill and joy that is overclocking.
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