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Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:09 am
by raptorx
Greetings Folks,
I have my i7 chip running comfortably @ 4GHz, 30x133 with DDR3 1600. My question is...is it worth it to experiment with higher bclocks/lower multipliers or just leave everything at 133MHz and keep the 30x mult. For instance, run something like 28x140 or 27x150 or...? I can run my memory stable @ >1720MHz if I want, but if there's nothing to be gained (especially in FSX) then I'll just keep the settings I have now.
Thanks,
Jim
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:21 am
by NickN
Only you can prevent forest fires
Try it
you are not hurting anything as long as you are stable and remain in spec with voltages
i7 4Ghz clocking was best designed for DDR3 2000 however that memory is not available at this stage in the game
You purchased a 965 which gives you an advantage others do not have. The goal is the same in any clocking.. highest CPU speed, highest memory speed on the lowest memory timing stable and safe
learning what works and does not work comes with experience. Part of that has to do with 'try it and see'
If you do, or, do not observe a positive difference in FSX then you have learned something new
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:50 am
by raptorx
That's actually what I wanted to hear (after..."yes!"

)
The fact that you didn't say no means there's a whole world to explore here. I wanted a simple clock which is why I got the 965. I know it's not a better clocker than the 940 in proper hands but it's more flexible. My goal was always 4GHz stable & cool and I think I've reached that. Now I get to play and dig around and see what happens. 8-)
Even at 3.33GHz the sim ran as fast as, and
much smoother than my Q9650 @ 4.1GHz.
-Jim
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:18 pm
by NickN
sounds like it is working correctly
ok, lets look at it from my perspective
you say 3.33GHz on i7 DDR3 ran the sim as good but smoother than 4.1Ghz DDR2
OK, not taking into account the 'smoother' part that means at 3.33GHz you are seeing a 24% increase in perf which is in line with the approx 35-40% you should see in a full clock
So it seems to me you runnin that system perfectly and I suspect you must be a happy camper about now...
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:58 pm
by NickN
By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware
Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm
by djt
By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware
Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime
What experts? I don
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:57 am
by raptorx
I really have to bite my fingers before responding over there. I'm getting so sick of a certain "expert" trying to convince people that fast memory has no positive effect on FSX and that "uberclocking" is pointless.
I have to stay away from there or I'll let myself get carried away on some endless stupid argument over how I have to prove my new hardware made my framerates go up!

Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:56 am
by kingfish42
By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware
Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime
Nick,
It's getting really hard to track you down. Have been following your advice very quietly for years and it has made a world of difference in my simming. It seems to me that "we" , the tech challenged of MSFS, need to find someplace for you to hang out without the interferance of that "windy" expert that comes barging in with his comments and pronouncements. (Back in the pre-web days, it was said that the only thing you had to do to become an expert was to drive 35 miles away from home. Now with the web, you can just sit in your easy chair and be an expert.)
So how about setting up shop in a separate forum on GEX. It certainly would bring traffic to that website; give it a little free "advertising". And the location would get out very fast with e-mail and link swapping. You could ban, can, or lock out that idiot.
And we would know where to find you.....................

Kingfish
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:12 am
by NickN
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:28 am
by NickN
By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware
Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime
Nick,
It's getting really hard to track you down. Have been following your advice very quietly for years and it has made a world of difference in my simming. It seems to me that "we" , the tech challenged of MSFS, need to find someplace for you to hang out without the interferance of that "windy" expert that comes barging in with his comments and pronouncements. (Back in the pre-web days, it was said that the only thing you had to do to become an expert was to drive 35 miles away from home. Now with the web, you can just sit in your easy chair and be an expert.)
So how about setting up shop in a separate forum on GEX. It certainly would bring traffic to that website; give it a little free "advertising". And the location would get out very fast with e-mail and link swapping. You could ban, can, or lock out that idiot.
And we would know where to find you.....................

Kingfish
See this post:
http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_p ... ?TID=29041you may visit me in the GEX forum at anytime
http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=38Im not looking for traffic or sales gimmicks. I do what I do because I enjoy it and not because of any compensation. I have never been paid a dime for anything related to MSFS to date.
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:40 am
by raptorx
On a more positive note,
Got the Corsairs to run 7-8-7-20 and 1N, memtest for over 8 hours stable. I love this memory! The chip passed over 6 hr P95 @ 4GHz, 1.37 vcore. No errors before I stopped the test to get online.
When flying it is simply stunning what clarity and detail comes out, even at distances far from the plane. It's so good it's hard to exit the sim and get back to the "real" world!
-Jim
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:06 am
by NickN
[quote]On a more positive note,
Got the Corsairs to run 7-8-7-20 and 1N, memtest for over 8 hours stable.
Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:01 pm
by djt
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:34 pm
by NickN
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Posted:
Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:44 pm
by djt
He got exactly what was coming to him
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