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Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby raptorx » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:09 am

Greetings Folks,

I have my i7 chip running comfortably @ 4GHz, 30x133 with DDR3 1600.  My question is...is it worth it to experiment with higher bclocks/lower multipliers or just leave everything at 133MHz and keep the 30x mult.  For instance, run something like 28x140 or 27x150 or...?  I can run my memory stable @ >1720MHz if I want, but if there's nothing to be gained (especially in FSX) then I'll just keep the settings I have now.

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:21 am

Only you can prevent forest fires

Try it

you are not hurting anything as long as you are stable and remain in spec with voltages

i7 4Ghz clocking was best designed for DDR3 2000 however that memory is not available at this stage in the game

You purchased a 965 which gives you an advantage others do not have. The goal is the same in any clocking.. highest CPU speed, highest memory speed on the lowest memory timing stable and safe

learning what works and does not work comes with experience. Part of that has to do with 'try it and see'

If you do, or, do not observe a positive difference in FSX then you have learned something new
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby raptorx » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:50 am

That's actually what I wanted to hear (after..."yes!" :D)

The fact that you didn't say no means there's a whole world to explore here.  I wanted a simple clock which is why I got the 965.   I know it's not a better clocker than the 940 in proper hands but it's more flexible.  My goal was always 4GHz stable & cool and I think I've reached that.  Now I get to play and dig around and see what happens. 8-)

Even at 3.33GHz the sim ran as fast as, and much smoother than my Q9650 @ 4.1GHz.  

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:18 pm

sounds like it is working correctly

ok, lets look at it from my perspective

you say 3.33GHz on i7 DDR3 ran the sim as good but smoother than 4.1Ghz DDR2

OK, not taking into account the 'smoother' part that means at 3.33GHz you are seeing a 24% increase in perf which is in line with the approx 35-40% you should see in a full clock


So it seems to me you runnin that system perfectly and I suspect you must be a happy camper about now...
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:58 pm

By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware

Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby djt » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm




By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware

Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime




What experts? I don
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby raptorx » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:57 am

I really have to bite my fingers before responding over there.  I'm getting so sick of a certain "expert" trying to convince people that fast memory has no positive effect on FSX and that "uberclocking" is pointless.  

I have to stay away from there or I'll let myself get carried away on some endless stupid argument over how I have to prove my new hardware made my framerates go up! ::)
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby kingfish42 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:56 am




By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware

Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime









Nick,

It's getting really hard to track you down. Have been following your advice very quietly for years and it has made a world of difference in my simming. It seems to me that "we" , the tech challenged of MSFS, need to find someplace for you to hang out without the interferance of that "windy" expert that comes barging in with his comments and pronouncements. (Back in the pre-web days, it was said that the only thing you had to do to become an expert was to drive 35 miles away from home. Now with the web, you can just sit in your easy chair and be an expert.)

So how about setting up shop in a separate forum on GEX. It certainly would bring traffic to that website; give it a little free "advertising". And the location would get out very fast with e-mail and link swapping. You could ban, can, or lock out that idiot.

And we would know where to find you..................... :o :o

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:12 am

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:28 am




By the way... I'm done over at AVSIM hardware

Although I will post in the FSX forum when someone may need assistance I have really had enough of the hardware and OS experts over there for one lifetime









Nick,

It's getting really hard to track you down. Have been following your advice very quietly for years and it has made a world of difference in my simming. It seems to me that "we" , the tech challenged of MSFS, need to find someplace for you to hang out without the interferance of that "windy" expert that comes barging in with his comments and pronouncements. (Back in the pre-web days, it was said that the only thing you had to do to become an expert was to drive 35 miles away from home. Now with the web, you can just sit in your easy chair and be an expert.)

So how about setting up shop in a separate forum on GEX. It certainly would bring traffic to that website; give it a little free "advertising". And the location would get out very fast with e-mail and link swapping. You could ban, can, or lock out that idiot.

And we would know where to find you..................... :o :o

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you may visit me in the GEX forum at anytime

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=38


Im not looking for traffic or sales gimmicks. I do what I do because I enjoy it and not because of any compensation. I have never been paid a dime for anything related to MSFS to date.
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby raptorx » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:40 am

On a more positive note,

Got the Corsairs to run 7-8-7-20 and 1N, memtest for over 8 hours stable.  I love this memory!  The chip passed over 6 hr P95 @ 4GHz, 1.37 vcore.  No errors before I stopped the test to get online.  

When flying it is simply stunning what clarity and detail comes out, even at distances far from the plane.  It's so good it's hard to exit the sim and get back to the "real" world!

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:06 am

[quote]On a more positive note,

Got the Corsairs to run 7-8-7-20 and 1N, memtest for over 8 hours stable.
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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby djt » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:01 pm

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby NickN » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:34 pm

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Re: Core i7 overclocking raise mult, BClock, or Both?

Postby djt » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:44 pm


He got exactly what was coming to him


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