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Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:08 am
by Rune S
Hi Nick, since you did not comment on my system, I will try again

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:57 am
by NickN
The reason I have not aswered is because you are asking a lot of questions in one post and I try to get to everyone as I can. Many times I have a list of posts that I need to address and I address them based on my availabilty in placing thought into an answer.

I wish I could help everyone exactly as they need but unfortunately the world is a big place and there is only one of me

I have seen this here and at FSWC however its about 5 posts behind on a list I must address based on date of posting

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:55 am
by Rune S
Uups sorry, Did not try to be rude. Please just use this post here, and forget about that FSWC-post, I have sort of closed it..

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:04 am
by T1MT1M
Well nick this obvious flaw of yours is becoming apparent, we must get together and invent some kind of cloning machine so that you CAN help more than 1000 people at once, which is probably less than you have helped in total over the years, but still a good goal. I shall start thinking outside of the box to come up with equations such as these to start to become an experimental physicist.

a = b

a^2 = ab

a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2

(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)

(a+b) = b

a = 2b

1a = 2b

1 = 2




Calculus anyone? ;)




But seriously thanks for helping everyone and being so kind about it.

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:23 am
by GabethePilot
Well if you're nterested in the opinion of someone who actually has a Q6600 - see my various posts about this.

I had nothing but problems with 2 x 2GB sticks of RAM...with XP.

BSODs, freezes everything....I blamed my new GTX 260 and the drivers...but once I went back to 2 x 1GB and removed the stoopid switch thing - perfect....again.

Also, there is no evidence that RAID arrays have any benefit in FSX - too much complexity to be worth even considering, if you ask me.

And, as has been said countless times.... don't mess around with multiple disks - everything on 1 Good disk and use a good defragger...properly. And, just FSX...nothing else - no need for virus checkers, office any other crap...just FSX...nothing else.

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:03 am
by Rune S
Well if you're nterested in the opinion of someone who actually has a Q6600 - see my various posts about this.

I had nothing but problems with 2 x 2GB sticks of RAM...with XP.

BSODs, freezes everything....I blamed my new GTX 260 and the drivers...but once I went back to 2 x 1GB and removed the stoopid switch thing - perfect....again.

Also, there is no evidence that RAID arrays have any benefit in FSX - too much complexity to be worth even considering, if you ask me.

And, as has been said countless times.... don't mess around with multiple disks - everything on 1 Good disk and use a good defragger...properly. And, just FSX...nothing else - no need for virus checkers, office any other crap...just FSX...nothing else.



Hi Gabe,
It think I will try this when I get home from work today, I will Take out two sticks and use 2x1024 sticks of Ram instead of the four 4x1024GB I have in use now. Thanks for the tips ;)

I think maybe you misunderstood me, or I used the wrong words/grammar(English not my native language)
I have used 2 disks on a RAID solution for my earlier fs9 install,(bought it for Megascenery addons) but I do not use RAID anymore..
And I don't think would go back to using it either, to much problems when one disk dies, and you have to go to service to get your data back... ouch expensive. Darn backup-routines never seem to get to me

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:51 am
by Slotback
Well nick this obvious flaw of yours is becoming apparent, we must get together and invent some kind of cloning machine so that you CAN help more than 1000 people at once, which is probably less than you have helped in total over the years, but still a good goal. I shall start thinking outside of the box to come up with equations such as these to start to become an experimental physicist.

a = b

a^2 = ab

a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2

(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)

(a+b) = b

a = 2b

1a = 2b

1 = 2




Calculus anyone? ;)




But seriously thanks for helping everyone and being so kind about it.


1 + 1 = 2.

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:11 pm
by NickN
[quote]Hi Nick, since you did not comment on my system, I will try again

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:57 pm
by NickN
Before I go through this I wish to state that I am not going to get into a long conversation about HOW TO OVERCLOCK

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:18 pm
by NickN
Well nick this obvious flaw of yours is becoming apparent, we must get together and invent some kind of cloning machine so that you CAN help more than 1000 people at once, which is probably less than you have helped in total over the years, but still a good goal. I shall start thinking outside of the box to come up with equations such as these to start to become an experimental physicist.

a = b

a^2 = ab

a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2

(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)

(a+b) = b

a = 2b

1a = 2b

1 = 2




Calculus anyone? ;)




But seriously thanks for helping everyone and being so kind about it.


1 + 1 = 2.




I prefer a more quantum physics approach which includes theoretical outcomes based on circumstance for the intelligence and ability of the clone(s) based on and more than just a numerically referenced existence of the being and biological factors.


The clone is only good if it can meet or exceed its original in performance

1+1 =2 is only true in a relative state mathematical calculation

Therefore, in a approach to cloning 1+1=2 may not be a 'true' statement

It could be 1+1 = 2 or less if the clone is not able to meet the standard or 'value' of 1


or

1 + 1 = 3 or greater if it exceeds standard or the 'value' of 1

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:46 am
by T1MT1M
I prefer a more quantum physics approach which includes theoretical outcomes based on circumstance for the intelligence and ability of the clone(s) based on and more than just a numerically referenced existence of the being and biological factors.


The clone is only good if it can meet or exceed its original in performance

1+1 =2 is only true in a relative state mathematical calculation

Therefore, in a approach to cloning 1+1=2 may not be a 'true' statement

It could be 1+1 = 2 or less if the clone is not able to meet the standard or 'value' of 1


or

1 + 1 = 3 or greater if it exceeds standard or the 'value' of 1





Ah but this is where electronics comes in, we will clone you and then use your brain for information which will be collected on a hard drive which will then be embedded in the clones head (if we can't find a way to put it in there we'll do what i usually do when i get frustrated that something that won't go, force it).

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:41 am
by Rune S
Ouch, That hit hard,

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:11 pm
by Rune S
[quote]


[b]4x1024GB (4GB)Corsair 8500 XMS2 DDR2

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:10 am
by NickN
this will have to wait till sometime this weekend, perhaps Sunday

the specs on the sticks are only one aspect... what they are actually running because you put 4 in the system is another

Use CPUz to show the true speed and timing of the sticks in the system as they are being used

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz_149.zip

Re: Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:32 pm
by Rune S
Hey Thanks :)

Finally found out how to upload pictures here so wil give it a try..

The corsair Sticks:

P.S. the numbers might not be same on the other pair but they are bought on the same time in pairs of 2(1024X2 in each pack). So they should be of the same spec, just not same serials I think, But you know this better than me ;)

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CPU-Z
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That should provide you with a lot of information I think..

ALSO if you need more Information, just ask..


Thank you so much for helping,
I will choose vicely this time ;)