Att: Nick, Hardware Question and tweakin the Q6600

[NickN]

you are only running DDR2 800 with those sticks @ 5-5-5 so your not taking any advantage of them since they should be running 1066 5-5-5

and

you may find out because you are using 4 sticks @ 1066 the system raises their timing to 6-6-6... and... you can be unstable with 4 sticks @ 1066 5-5-5 so there is a lot to consider because of the 4 sticks.

I would probably set the clock up with 2 sticks and then install the other 2 in order to see if timing and stability remain the same

[NickN]

[quote]Ouch, That hit hard,

[Rune S]

Ok, thank you so much

[NickN]

Lets get something strait...

Going to i7 is not a miracle upgrade by any means but it is much better than Q DDR3

The only way that purchase would be worth the upgrade is if you commit to cloking the 920 to at minimum 3.6GHz, then I can see the expense and the learning curve on a new system being worth the investment

Not clocking a 920 will not overcome a Q6600. It will run a bit smoother however it will still be hindered at its base speed.

The 940 has a base clock of 2.96GHz which would make it much better than the Q6600 but it too needs to be clocked if you are looking for FSX performance

..and there is no such thing a a system that is "OUT' of the FSX zone

FSX is a poorly upgraded year 2000 rendering engine that is made like most Microsoft products... overblown on old technology and chokes the life out of Intel and Nvidia's flagship hardware even afer 2 years on the market  ;D

[Rune S]

[quote]

Lets get something strait...

Going to i7 is not a miracle upgrade by any means but it is much better than Q DDR3

The only way that purchase would be worth the upgrade is if you commit to cloking the 920 to at minimum 3.6GHz, then I can see the expense and the learning curve on a new system being worth the investment

Not clocking a 920 will not overcome a Q6600. It will run a bit smoother however it will still be hindered at its base speed.

The 940 has a base clock of 2.96GHz which would make it much better than the Q6600 but it too needs to be clocked if you are looking for FSX performance

..and there is no such thing a a system that is "OUT' of the FSX zone

FSX is a poorly upgraded year 2000 rendering engine that is made like most Microsoft products... overblown on old technology and chokes the life out of Intel and Nvidia's flagship hardware even afer 2 years on the market

[NickN]

yes your board is not good for clocking control


so even if you replace your memory with the 2x2GB 1066 Corsair I cant say if that board would run it stable.. It certainly appears to be very limited in clocking control

[Rune S]

So how do I proceed from here, I feel I have cornered myself now
I have some money, but I do not have enough to buy a complete i7-system yet.
I have 5200-NOK, and those prices are in NOK(Norwegian kroner)
And I also have 1400-NOK at that multicom-webshop from that (Chill Inovation psu)And I also have some money from that Corsair 750-NOK
But that is pretty much it..

[NickN]

The memory for that i7 system could be a bit better if you can get it

Look for 2x3GB DDR3 1600 1.65v 7-8-7 timing if you can find it

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/mem ... asp?id=730


Mushkin #998679 (3x2GB) XP3-12800



If not the Corsair you posted will work



If you go 920 you must clock the crap out of it.. at least 3.6 to 4GHz

The 940 will be easier to clock to 4G but the 920 will do it on the right PSU and heatsink

[Rune S]

Hi Nick,

Ok, so wich is best for i920/i940 -

[NickN]

920 does have limits whith resspect to memory because the motherboard math on the memory multiplier is restricted with the 920 over the 940. Therefore 1600 memory is fine with 920 and even 940/965

i7 is new and over the next year there will be better memory coming out for it.

i7 clocking is different than Intel Quad and dual of the past. With i7 you do not use FSB to gain in a clock and the memory speed is not controlled the same with i7 either. There is a memory multiplier which is driven by BCLOCK, the same value used to increase the CPU speed of the i7. With 920 and most motherboards there are only 2 memory multiplier choices to work with where with 940 that is expanded

In my opinion the next step up from DDR3 1600 would be DDR3 2000 which is not yet on the market. So I would not purchase 1866 Corsair memory and stick with 1600 on lower timing


Yes the stciks I posted are currently the best 1600 memory on the market. They will probably be available in your country soon as they were just released here.

[Rune S]

Quick question: What driver do you suggest for a XFX-7900GT-OC 256MB (ram in system 1-2GB DDR1) It Will be used most for fs2004, and fsx?? this is for my friend who bought my previous pc-parts


Ok, Thank you so Much for all theese tips, I really appreciate it

[NickN]

I have not used a 7900 series card in over 2 years


I dont know... he needs to experiment I guess

Start with the last official release for the card

[Rune S]

Ok thanks Nick,

If someone else here has any tip to which driver works best for the 7900(GT-256MB)-series card in fs9/fsx, please chime in..