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Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:53 pm
by vgbaron
Asus Rampage Formula/ Q6600 G0/ Mushkin 996535 1066 DDR
*had* 3.6 stable on 680i chipset @ 800FSB memory 5-5-4-12-2T
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Currently max at 3.24 (360x9)
vCore Auto (1.32)
NB Auto
Dram Voltage - 2.20 - 5-5-4-12-2T
Max temp 59C under OCCT
Lots of settings on this mobo - I'm guessing next step is to take vCore out of auto but what about NB? When should that voltage get tweaked?
Tried jumping to 400FSB with vCore 1.45 and 1066 memory but failed OCCT and temps git up to 68C.
Just not sure what next step should be with this mobo.
Vic
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:20 am
by NickN
OK
Little trade secret .. Tony at OCZ and I worked of the AS RE BIOS and I will give you the numbers for bliss operation but they require 2 things be in order
1. Your CPU cooler
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:32 am
by NickN
BTW
If you ever get a real processor, like a Q9650 (Pquad 9 mult) or a QX series proc. ... set FSB to 450, verify the memspeed is 1066-1086, vcore must be reduced due to P Quad (45nm) to 1.28-1.36 max (65nm to 1.45v at 8x) and rock your world
Sam over at Avsim is dangerous to FSX users.. his Q6600 recomendation is based on his limitations on that crap P35 elcheapo DDR2 budget board he runs
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:52 am
by vgbaron
Will give them a try! Use liquid cooling so temps shouldn't be a problem. Currently have been running OCCT for 1 hour - max is 54C.
Settings ( based upon a lot of stuff I've been reading before your last post:
FSB 380
Strap 400
memory 1013
vCore 1.45(setting)
NB 1.45
FSB Term 1.38
DRAM V 2.24
Also ran Intel Burn test with no errors.
BUT - I will try your settings.
Looks like the Q9650's are running about $300 - worth it to upgrade?
What could I expect - 450x9 = 4.05?
BTW, he knows more than I do but I agree with your assessment about Sam - even I know some of the things he says aren't quite right.
V
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:02 am
by NickN
Will give them a try! Use liquid cooling so temps shouldn't be a problem. Currently have been running OCCT for 1 hour - max is 54C.
Settings ( based upon a lot of stuff I've been reading before your last post:
FSB 380
Strap 400
memory 1013
vCore 1.45(setting)
NB 1.45
FSB Term 1.38
DRAM V 2.24
Also ran Intel Burn test with no errors.
BUT - I will try your settings.
Looks like the Q9650's are running about $300 - worth it to upgrade?
What could I expect - 450x9 = 4.05?
BTW, he knows more than I do but I agree with your assessment about Sam - even I know some of the things he says aren't quite right.
V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115130http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az= ... &mode=full
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:15 am
by vgbaron
so far so good - temp in OCCT is 55C - haven't completed a pass yet but it booted fine. Only setting I couldn't get - memory options were 1280 or 960 after setting strap to 333 and FSB to 400. Rest was as you suggested.
BTW, the Intelburn test temps are almost 15C higher than OCCT.
Probably tinker for another 1/2 hour and then get some sleep. Try agin in the AM.
LOL you got me thinking about the Q9650 - $300 is ok - $1000 is a little steep.
V
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:18 am
by NickN
so far so good - temp in OCCT is 55C - haven't completed a pass yet but it booted fine. Only setting I couldn't get - memory options were 1280 or 960 after setting strap to 333 and FSB to 400. Rest was as you suggested.
BTW, the Intelburn test temps are almost 15C higher than OCCT.
Probably tinker for another 1/2 hour and then get some sleep. Try agin in the AM.
LOL you got me thinking about the Q9650 - $300 is ok - $1000 is a little steep.
V
thats strange... let me check BIOS calcs... I may have forgot the 400 and remembered the 450 option on memory divider at 333...
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:22 am
by NickN
MY BAD
yep... I had my head in 450MHz
400MHz puts you at 4:3 so that is CORRECT!
LOL
SOoooooooooooooo sorry LOL!
work it out from there
and yes the 9650 will kick ass compared to the Q66
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:22 am
by vgbaron
LOL
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:26 am
by NickN
$549.99 =
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache
9550 is hit and miss
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:32 am
by NickN
hey on liquid you may be able to nail a few MHz higher than 400 x9... give it shot but remember... max vcore is 1.5 with LLC ENABLED and temp is 75c max on OCCT
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:33 am
by vgbaron
For an EE you're a good salesman, Nick!
Going to order it before I go to bed.

Well so far - 1/2 hr OCCT - no probs and max temp cores was 61.
Love it when a plan comes together..
V
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:35 am
by vgbaron
hey on liquid you may be able to nail a few MHz higher than 400 x9... give it shot but remember... max vcore is 1.5 with LLC ENABLED and temp is 75c max on OCCT
OCCT shows one CPU temp - uses Everest - 45 max load an 27 at idle.
Coretemp shows 61/38 - am I missing somethng here?
ordered q9650 smooth talker! :)
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:42 am
by NickN
hey on liquid you may be able to nail a few MHz higher than 400 x9... give it shot but remember... max vcore is 1.5 with LLC ENABLED and temp is 75c max on OCCT
OCCT shows one CPU temp - uses Everest - 45 max load an 27 at idle.
Coretemp shows 61/38 - am I missing somethng here?
LOL!!
No sale with me unless it WORKS
Yep you are missing something my friend.. you not reading the true CPU diode with everest.. could be needs updating... use CoreTemp for that!
75c MAX in OCCT
http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az= ... &mode=fullafter you get it dialed in.. run the Everest TOOLS - CACHE and MEMORY Benchmark
post the image and I will know everything from that
here is one from my old P35 DDR3 system...

read/write = higher and latency = lower are the key
Re: Next step on my clock?

Posted:
Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:59 am
by vgbaron

Here ya go!