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Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:20 am
by FS_Pilot
I am trying to reduce the amount of services running in the background to allow more for running Flightsim. There are currently 59 services running but i can manually turn some off when i run fs9. The toruble is some of these services are required by other users when they are logged in. Is there a way of creating a seperate login user with minimum services running or a program that will shut off all unessential services while fs9 is running?
Thanks FS_Pilot

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:28 am
by Zaphod
Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

Zaphod

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:04 am
by Fozzer
Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

Zaphod


...this one?...

FS Autostart...>>>

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Syst ... tart.shtml

...got to be a bit careful what you shut-down tho', if you play On-Line!... ;)...!

F...shutting down the Television... ;)...!

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:14 am
by DonAlfonsoRoKil
FSAutostart is a completely different story - sorry, zaphod, but reading fs_Pilot's post would have been better than flying over it... ;)

Slow computer, he? I also always kill processes before flying! :D
One important thing, you have to differ between processes and services!
Processes are those you can see in your task-manager.
By googling you can get infos fur pretty sure nearly every or even all of your tasks.
You can kill many processes without any problems while others make your system crash. Google helps!
Services, however, are not tasks that are permanently blocking your RAM space.
Often, they're also integrated into tasks, as they are no independent working files.
Tasks/processes can differ from user to user depending on who is logged in.
But services who are often used to enable processes accessing hardware are already running before you log in.
So you can't disable services for one user - either enabled for all or disabled for all.
So the only thing I can suggest is, keep away from services - disabling them may kill your sys forever, if you don't know how to bring it back, but killing a process: no problem, just reboot and it's there again!
So try out killing processes with your task manager or an alternative one like "Process Explorer" (can easily be found with - again Google ;D ).

Crash!

rev

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:08 am
by JBaymore
Hi FS_Pilot.
There is a freeware program called FSAutoStart which may be helpfull. I believe you can customise it to meet your requirements. Not sure about the "other user" issue.
Might be worth taking a look.

Zaphod


Please read NickN's take of FSAutostart before using.

Aslo see the FSX sticky for the definitive guide to tweaking your machjine for FS use.  99 Percent of it applies to ANY sim.

best,

..................john

best,

.................john

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:51 pm
by MWISimmer
Please read NickN's take of FSAutostart before using.


Which can be found here

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:30 am
by DonAlfonsoRoKil
best,

..................john

best,

.................john


Does your brain work correctly?!  ;D ;D Remembering is the most important part of thinking!

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:57 am
by JBaymore
[Remembering is the most important part of thinking!


Remembering what?   ;)

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:32 am
by DonAlfonsoRoKil
remembering what????
don't know what you're talking of?!  :-? :-?

;D ;D

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:40 am
by caveman16
    And I thought I had it bad     ;D

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:55 am
by NickN
FSAutostart has use for those who are on very restricted systems AND know what they are doing when using it


Pentium 4, 2.4 GHZ Processor
Gigabyte GA-8SR533 Motherboard
1280mb DDR Ram
256 GeFORCE 7600GS Video Card 17 MagView monitor. Saitek X45 Joystick


Since he has 1280MB of RAM, FSAutostart its not going to make things better assuming he shuts down the services I outlined. -Minimum- RAM for FS9 use on Windows XP would be 768MB, 1GB (minimum) preferred. Best results is 2GB. FSAutostart really has no use if you run 1GB or more and besides, the only services that really interfere with the system are the ones I listed which get shut down if you optimize correctly anyway

Also, FSAutostart does not shut down services completely and recover the memory from them. All it does is shut down the service process. To correctly shut down a service AND recover the memory it used, you must follow my directions and shut down the service at LOGON (reboot). That is why I said the use of FSAutostart is typcially worthless. Many users also shut down things they should not with that program. It can help if you:

A: Know what you are doing
B: Have less than 768MB-1GB of RAM

otherwise, I would not mess with it.

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:58 am
by FS_Pilot
Does anyone know where i can get a copy of the manual or help files for FSAutostart? The Authors http://www.kensalter.com/fsautostart website has been shutdown and i would like to know how to set it up correctly before actually installing it and mucking it or my system up.
FS_Pilot

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:02 am
by NickN
Does anyone know where i can get a copy of the manual or help files for FSAutostart? The Authors http://www.kensalter.com/fsautostart website has been shutdown and i would like to know how to set it up correctly before actually installing it and mucking it or my system up.
FS_Pilot



Trust me, you have over 1GB of memory. Just follow my directions in the thread posted above for service shutdown and that is really all you need.

As for startup programs, (not services) that is an area you need to know what can be shut down and what can not. I can not direct you in that without knowing what is on the system and no instructions for FSAutostart will tell you that for sure either.

You can shut down startup programs temp by unchecking them under the startup tab of the system configuration utility

START - RUN - type: MSCONFIG

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:08 am
by NickN
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SERVICES SHUTDOWN

Re: Reducing services/processes

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:12 am
by FS_Pilot
NickN, I appreciate your advice which I followed your procedure to the letter but it made little diffence. I currently have 58 processes running and i can reduce this to about 46 without any harmful effects which shows a noticable inprovement in performance. for Eg: there are 9 instances of svchost.exe running. Some of the examples i shutdown are ipod, Real player schedualer, acronis & oodefrag. It is a pain in the butt having to do it manually each time i want to run FSX or fs9. I was reading somewhere that you can setup a computer profile to run with minimum services and processes but i forgot where i seen it.
FS_Pilot