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Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:23 pm
by beaky
Weird... I decided to update my nVidia drivers (been having a new problem with sim dropping to about 7fps about six to eight times when first starting a flight), and of course I had to reinstall coolbits, which I've been using for ages to "unlock" the advanced settings on the card.
Decided to get rid of my profile and start over, but didn't make any changes, really. Running an even lower core/memory clock spread than before...
Not sure yet if I've fixed my original problem, but for some reason I now have no graphics in the preview window in the Create a Flight or Select Aircraft pages. It seems elated, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. Even set the card at default settings, and it still does it.
Anybody have a clue?

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:01 pm
by ctjoyce
Reinstall FS? I have no idea. Sounds like your FS got currupted somehow. Also run 3DMark. See if your card is dieing (however I doubt that it is)

Cheers
Cameron

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:03 pm
by Souichiro
And you also get a black screen with just the progress bar when you do start flight?

I also recently updated my drivers and have the same problem! Also Nvidia

When I drop down resolution to 800X600 it al works fine but at 1280X1024X32 it fails

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:09 pm
by beaky
And you also get a black screen with just the progress bar when you do start flight?

I also recently updated my drivers and have the same problem! Also Nvidia

When I drop down resolution to 800X600 it al works fine but at 1280X1024X32 it fails


No; once the sim is up and running everything's OK- except for the freezing every few seconds, but that clears up after about 20 seconds.
Should have known better than to try to fix this... ::)
At any rate, it's hardly worth a reinstall of FS9- I already know what my planes look like.
Wish I could tell you what to do about your problem, but I don't have a clue.... although i may reinstall the drivers or go back to the old ones; that may work for both of us.
:)

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:13 am
by GA_Pilot
I am using an nVidia FX5200, which has 4 AA settings, if I remember correctly they are 2x, 2xQ, 4x, and 8x. When I use any of the first 3 settings FS crashes, and when I use the 8x setting it wont crash but it does as you describe, it doesnt have a preview window...and it does this no matter what the resolution is set at  ???

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:15 pm
by ctjoyce
You all need new cards. Its your card, not your FS thats the problem. The card you have cant handel the FS engine very well. 6600GT is the minimum anyone should have.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:57 pm
by Gunny04
I dont think they had 6600s back when FS9 Came out, You need a Bare minimum of a MX 440 64mb trust me, I had one, ran better than this this Damned 6200 I have now........ So dont go on the min is something that wasnt out when game came along! and I bet you could do with an even lower card if you wanted! just not to the fullest of effects! Cheers, Gunny

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:18 pm
by congo
I think it could possibly be your hard disk getting fuller, and load times (for textures and views as well) are increasing.

Not to mention that all this Driver updating usually ends in misery eventually.

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:31 am
by Souichiro
I've been meaning to ask this before and had some shots ready..

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It isn't due to hard disk space...It has been fuller at mine... After the sim is loaded everything looks fine!

When MP-ing when you oped the chat window make sure it is at the bottom of your screen since you will have a black bar...

like this

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Those are my issues...

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:18 pm
by Gunny04
Drivers made it so I prolly gotta RMA my card soon! ah!!!!!!!!!!! Sucks..... these are what happened to my card then it just started failing in everything! I cant run FS in full screen and when I do, and load up like FSpas it turns it black and white and 70% of the screen is game and 30% is screen in back, so my cards shot! dunno why, worked fine till I did newest drivers (bout two hours) then died! Cheers, Gunny

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:43 pm
by beaky
You all need new cards. Its your card, not your FS thats the problem. The card you have cant handel the FS engine very well. 6600GT is the minimum anyone should have.

Cheers
Cameron


So why has it never done this before in over a year of squeezing as much out of it as I can with FS9? Is it getting tired? I'm not being sarcastic... it's been pretty damn solid, even with my fairly recent CPU/RAM upgrade and tentative overclocking (all on a modest scale, for sure, but definitely pushing the limits of an old clunker like a 5700LE)
Just seemed related to the driver update... although I agree I could really use an expensive card, killer CPU, heavy-duty huge-capacity RAM, my own private island with airport, a fleet of fabulous aircraft, a trophy wife, etc... come on, Mega-Millions!!
;D

Whatever... I am actually planning a pretty serious upgrade this year... haven't decided what exactly to get yet, but it may even be FSX-ready, if I make some good money in the next few months.
But I really would just be very happy to stick with FS9 if it would only run at full-kilter and look its best on whatever rig I put together.

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:48 pm
by Gunny04
your card can do it maxed, without massive addons then you might run into trouble rotty, Its driver related, I can attest for that, my 6200 worked damn good with stock drivers, installed 81.92 or something, and it hasnt worked right since, Reinstalled windows even and clean install didnt fix it, so drivers prolly really screwed it up or it was a big coincidence! Cheers, Gunny

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:58 pm
by ctjoyce
nVidia drivers have a tendency of expecting more out of a card with updates. So your problem is that you installed drivers that were expected to put into a 6800GT or a 7800 series card, and you FX card or low 6XXXX card just couldn't take the pressure.

ATI does this tool, but you tend to lose features as your S-Video and second monitor plug, before you loose you GFX

Cheers
Cameron

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:08 pm
by congo
Why don't you go and put the drivers that the card was boxed with and worked perfectly with back on your systems guys? Or at least go back to some driver that did work.

I'm telling you, 8x..xx whatever series drivers were just not optimised for your cards.

I suppose you all have automatic updates enabled as well, allowing microsoft update to screw up your PC's whenever it's automated evil arse is inclined to do so?

That probably goes for more automated software on your PC's as well, how many processes are running automatically now, 10, 30, 50 ?

It makes diagnosis a nightmare.

Imagine plugging a newly installed hard disk/op sys/FS9 into your rig, I bet your issues evaporate, providing you don't immediately link to automated updates and run tons of antivirus junk and every other automated, spying, "I am the most important bit of code ever written" software all over your PC.

Not only are automated programs a hassle, but how many times have you uninstalled a perfectly functioning driver for "the latest" piece of junk?

Someone else said it recently, and I'll say it again, when we first bought FS9, we were using old GeForce MX440's and such. They worked without issue, albeit, they were slow. It's not the hardware's fault, in almost all cases it's mis-configuration.

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:36 pm
by Gunny04
Yea the guy mumbling on with an MX would be me and Gunnerman..... My card is F***** over bad, reinstalled windows, Put disk drivers back on (The only drivers it works with now are the ones on disk it came with) It was working fine, upped my drivers too have better, it cut some features and it screwed things up I think, I dont know whether to RMA it or buy a new one.... oh the joys of computers! Cheers, Gunny!