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so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:15 am
by legoalex2000
I'm liking it so far... a couple interesting notes to rant about...

> spent 2 days looking for WOW64, thinking it was a program. finally i get an answer that it's just a DLL for 32 bit programs. man did i feel dumb...

>since x64 does not have Service Pack 2, i had to find a driver for my wireless nic. I have a D-Link card, and found a netgear driver. as you can see, im online.
  the only way for me to get online to get the driver was to plug in my computer into my TV, becuase i have a LAN cable going there for my PS2. so it was another blazing 40" of HDTV pixelated Computer :P.

>Firefox is a little bit more unstable on X64, and i don't know why, cause everything else is just fine.

>I had FS9 on my D Drive, didn't uninstall it or anything. i booted it through x64, and it worked just fine. i thought i would have to re-install. i was a happy camper ;D

>i cant get Office 2003 for my computer... so i downloaded openoffice.org suite. all the same stuff, more stable, and free. what beats that?

>but this is only a 120 day trial, and im 9 days into it, so 111 to go. thats 111 days to fork over $150... seesh, i think i could switch to Linux ubuntu untill vista is out.

>i've yet to revert my "my documents" from the orginal computer switch, and the 32-64 bit switch, i only have 300mb space on my D drive left... ouch.

so thats about it, otherwsie, x64 was worth it. i found out my chipset gave me a free Firewall (nvidia). also grabbed Avast virsscanner and Ad-aware.

x64 worth it? 2 big toes up! ::) :P

:)Ramos

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:47 pm
by richardd43
When the trial is up you might want to hold off and wait for Vista to come out. There is a lot of new goodies  in Vista that XP-64 does not have.

There was a rumor that there will be an upgrade available for XP-64 to Vista but I have not been able to confirm that.

I have the D-Link G510 and would like to know which Netgear drivers you downloaded. Would like to load XP-64 back onto this computer.

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:49 pm
by ctjoyce
XP64 Pro OWNERS!!! will recieve a $100 rebate from microsoft when they switch to vista. You will have to produce your code to them, and thy will send you Vista Home Professional for $100 less than the shelve price. Persoanlly though, depending on how much I dislike Vista (the OS itself, not the look. I happen to like the look of apple, just not the function) I may stay with XP64

Cheers
Cameron

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:56 pm
by richardd43
I agree. Once Vista comes out my driver problems should be solved.

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:06 am
by legoalex2000
XP64 Pro OWNERS!!! will recieve a $100 rebate from microsoft when they switch to vista. You will have to produce your code to them, and thy will send you Vista Home Professional for $100 less than the shelve price. Persoanlly though, depending on how much I dislike Vista (the OS itself, not the look. I happen to like the look of apple, just not the function) I may stay with XP64

Cheers
Cameron



I just tried a *cough*ripped*cough* copy of vista Ultimate edition (one of the 6 editions available). it wasn't that bad. it was stable, sleek. yet it retained the look of Windows XP with some neat features.

but if you do't like the new layout, they still have the windows 98 scheme for y'all. I liked it, i might switch again to vista.

:)Ramos - can't keep an OS for 2 weeks:P

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:14 am
by ctjoyce
I also just got a "preview copy" of vista, and like the layout. So I plan to use that for all my future windows needs.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:53 pm
by candle_86
Well you two welcome to the vista community, my 10 gig is running 5308 and before that was 5270. I've been running Longhorn/Vista since 4075 on a 2nd drive. I do suggest if you have questions refer to http://winvistasecrets.com

Look for me there as shellofinsanity

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:04 pm
by ctjoyce
Im liking what I see here, and will switch the day it comes out for the end user.

Cheers
Cameron

PS: When I said end user, I ment when I get the $1400 together for an upgrade. 940 Prestler 4GB of Corsair XMS, and X1900XTX here I come.

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:20 am
by candle_86
what a waste there, a 1900XTX you should wait till around October this year, the 8800 and X2800 should be comming out with guess what, DX10/9L support and Shader Model 4.

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:40 pm
by ctjoyce
Because the XTX is the best single card right now, and about 80% of the M$ user base wouln't be useing Vista for the first cuple years anyway. My plan is to upgrade my system to vista quality, then depending on how well it goes over, I'll go out and buy a copy. And if it flops, then I have an amazing XP system.

As for the new features, again I'm going to wate a generation of cards before upgradeing.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:07 pm
by NicksFXHouse
I have been dual booting x32 pro and x64 pro for several months now... I fly FS9 from both x32 and x64. FS9 is installed on a RAID0 drive on the x64 OS however it flys fine when booted from x32 by simply using the FS9 tool to add the reg key to the x32 OS registry.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both operating systems. X64 handles high loads much better than x32. I find texture loads on x64 are instantaneous compared x32.

Frame rates are not important.. What is important is smooth frame transitions and high load performance. I find 25FPS in x64 is just as if not smoother than 32FPS in x32 due to the full motherboard bandwidth being provided by the x64 OS. For that same reason more ground FX files play in x64 and AI traffic tends to be heavier with the same traffic settings because the system can handle more CPU intense processes. FS9 is CPU intense and allot of people do not get to see all the action in the sim even using equal graphics settings someone else uses simply because their systems are not perfomance tuned or their CPU/Memory motherboard bandwidth is limited by hardware or lack of tuning. FS9 automatically adds more detail to the sim if the resources are available to it. That is one of the reasons why two people can have equal graphics cards and run equal graphic settings but achieve different visuals, clarity and frame smoothness results.

I run an AGP ATI AIW x800xt (500-500) overclocked to 540-580 using a Zalman HSF. The motherboard is an A8V Deluxe running an A64 3700+ (2.2gig) San Diego overclocked to 2.75 @ 250MHz, memory running 5:3 divider on 2 1 gig sticks of OCZ memory product and a Page file set to 2048-4096.

My tower is virtually silent since I run speedfan and ATI tool to control all fans based on temps.

My FS install consists of Ultimate Traffic running 92% including ALL GA traffic, Ultimate terrain USA and Canada, Birds Eye View complete 1024x texture set (waiting for spring). A special mixture of Chris Willis clouds from the past and my own along with my own water package I am on hold in working on. Also use the full versions of FLY TAMPA Seattle, San Francisco, Miami, San Diego along with an entire list of add-on scenery designed to enhance Ultimate terrain USA/Canada.

All FS scenery sliders are @ 100% (water high) and all boxes checked including add on dynamic scenery... except shadows, which are unchecked. Aircraft settings are ultra high, weather settings are Sight Distance = 70 : Cloud Draw 40 ; 3D clouds @ 100% and Cloud Density on MAXIMUM when I fly x64 and HIGH when I fly x32. I run render to texture and AA DISABLED with Mip quality on 4 and the Global texture size set to MASSIVE. Hardware rendered lights @ 8 with the native resolution of 1280 x 1024 @32 on a SONY 17in high output SDM HS74P LCD monitor

I usually fly the PMDG-737 and 747 in the VC cockpits along with FS Passengers running (heavy load with that program running)

The difference between x32 and x64 is in the way loads are handled. each OS can stumble a bit here and there with the type of scenery/settings/aircraft I am running but I find x64 handles the heavy CPU/memory bus loads with better frame continuity (smooth).

Since I run the same FS install for both OS's it is possible to easily see the differences.

The biggest downfall to x64 is indeed driver support, however the ATI 6.1 cat drivers run excellent on both x64 and x32 (Stay away from the 6.2 cats's as there are problems with them and FS9)


Flight simulator can run like a dog on the fastest system if you do not know how to performance tune and load balance your settings... especially FPS. Do not listen to the 32-35-45FPS stories as them being smoother than 25FPS... Try running my settings:

[SOUND]
SOUND=1
SOUND_FADER1=0.500000
SOUND_FADER2=0.460000
SOUND_FADER3=0.620000
SOUND_FADER4=0.800000
SOUND_FADER5=0.810000
SOUND_FADER6=1.000000
SOUND_QUALITY=2
Channels=4
SamplesPerSec=44100
BitsPerSample=16
[DISPLAY.Device.RADEON X800 Series

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:42 pm
by NicksFXHouse
PS: I fly the ATI CAT Driver settings @ 4AA and 16AF with quality sliders to full. I also only fly REAL WORLD weather

Here are a few quick shots, i did not filter any of these, just resized them:

(the cars and trucks are moving on the streets and tarmac)

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Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:45 pm
by NicksFXHouse
I would prefer to see crystal clear scenery in the distance without frame drops. Watching the frame counter is only needed to load balance a system. I have found for both x64 and x32 the best method to find the sweet-spot frame lock is after all scenery has been installed and has been checked for errors using Flight Sim Manager,

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:24 am
by congo
Where do you find the time Nick N?

You must be well organised to calculate all the stats.

Well done!

Screenshots aren't too shabby either   :D

Re: so about the XP x64 i have....

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:05 pm
by NicksFXHouse
[quote]Where do you find the time Nick N?



Screenshots aren't too shabby either