Lost Select Aircraft preview

Ideas, suggestions, tips & questions on how to supercharge your PC or software!

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby ctjoyce » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:05 am

Like I said. Newer drivers were made for newer cards. Use the ones in the box until you buy a new card, in which case you can use the updates. Only those with the 6600XX and above cards can use the new drivers without fail. ATi the Xxxx series and 9800xx can use up to Cat 5.10 without problem. You need the X1K and X850 series of cards to use the 5.11 and above drivers.

This may not be a hardware problem, but with a good 16 pixel pipeline card (X800GTO) is out for only $150 why wouldnt you want to upgrade that rubbish MX card to something DX9?

Cheers
Cameron
CTJoyce, Modding and voiding warranties since 2003
Sheila's Specs:ASUS Striker Extreme 680i, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2Ghz, Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400C4 2GB, 2x eVGA 7900GT KO,  Western Digital 80GB SATA & 250GB SATAIII
[b]Vesp
User avatar
ctjoyce
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3820
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:42 pm
Location: USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby Gunny04 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:03 am

I did, a 6200 and then it went Wacko on me, was only 39.99 so I am at no loss really, and the MX defualt to the board is Fried, wont run right anymore anyways.... and the 6200 is partially fried as well, I am screwed I Guess  ;D
AMD athlon 3800 Venice Socket 939 64 bit at 2.4Ghz, 6100K8MA-RS Foxconn Motherboard, 1gb (2X512) OCZ Platinum PC3200 Ram, EVGA 8800GTS 640MB OC, 500 Watt NZXT psu, and Windows Vista Ultimate Total hard drive space 530gb
Gunny04
Major
Major
 
Posts: 2059
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:44 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby ctjoyce » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:05 am

But now you have learned you lesson.You buy a NEW never been used or opened card from a reputive dealer (like newegg) and you buy a good card X800GTO / 6800 or better.

Refurbs may be $100 less, but they were returned for a reason ;)

Cheers
Cameron
CTJoyce, Modding and voiding warranties since 2003
Sheila's Specs:ASUS Striker Extreme 680i, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2Ghz, Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400C4 2GB, 2x eVGA 7900GT KO,  Western Digital 80GB SATA & 250GB SATAIII
[b]Vesp
User avatar
ctjoyce
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3820
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:42 pm
Location: USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby Gunny04 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:35 am

was unopened an was new  ;D Prolly my fault because I didnt install it with propper PSU CT Cheers, Gunny
AMD athlon 3800 Venice Socket 939 64 bit at 2.4Ghz, 6100K8MA-RS Foxconn Motherboard, 1gb (2X512) OCZ Platinum PC3200 Ram, EVGA 8800GTS 640MB OC, 500 Watt NZXT psu, and Windows Vista Ultimate Total hard drive space 530gb
Gunny04
Major
Major
 
Posts: 2059
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:44 pm
Location: Michigan

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby ctjoyce » Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:54 pm

Ahh i see. I thought you said that you got a refurb 6200 ;) Mah bad.

Cheers
Cameron
CTJoyce, Modding and voiding warranties since 2003
Sheila's Specs:ASUS Striker Extreme 680i, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2Ghz, Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400C4 2GB, 2x eVGA 7900GT KO,  Western Digital 80GB SATA & 250GB SATAIII
[b]Vesp
User avatar
ctjoyce
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3820
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:42 pm
Location: USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby beaky » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:58 pm

Why don't you go and put the drivers that the card was boxed with and worked perfectly with back on your systems guys? Or at least go back to some driver that did work.


Because I am often advised that my framerate problems (especially the "80 frames, freeze! 80 frames, freeze!" thing) are there because the card is pining for updates, or something like that. Maybe I'm just stupid. Who knows? ;D
I may well go back to the stock drivers (with coolbits; this thing is useless without a little boost), but honestly I don't miss the preview that much. And everything else is the same: that is, mediocre.
 But all that will be rendered moot when I replace/upgrade my mobo, chip, gfx card, and RAM... maybe soon.
Image
User avatar
beaky
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 12877
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:00 am
Location: Shenandoah, PA USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby congo » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:27 am


Because I am often advised that my framerate problems (especially the "80 frames, freeze! 80 frames, freeze!" thing) are there because the card is pining for updates, or something like that. Maybe I'm just stupid. Who knows? ;D




Nah, sometimes things are a driver issue, but I reckon it's a lot rarer than anyone imagines. There is so much rhetoric involved. Drivers are something the average Joe can fiddle with, so he feels he's useful in an otherwise automated and mysterious computing experience. Lets face it, the myriad of software, options, settings and background processes are enough to drive us all into rash actions!
ImageMainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24&
User avatar
congo
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3655
Joined: Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:13 am
Location: Australia

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby AnGeL_MaKeR » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:50 pm

It's nothing to do with a refurb card... drop your AA settings down to 4x... I've got the same prob btw...

I'm running SLI w/twin 7800 gt oc's at 1280x1064 settings... had the same prob before when i had a 6800 gt oc (all cards were from bfg)... when i changed aa setting to max... preview disappeared.
Last edited by AnGeL_MaKeR on Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A_M




[center][move]eVGA 8800 GTX...   AMD X2 5200 (AM2)...   ASUS M2N32-SLI mobo...    4 GB Corsair DDR2 800mhz...   Sound Blaster X-Fi Gaming Sound...   2x 250 GB S-ATA, 1x 500 GB S-ATA...  
User avatar
AnGeL_MaKeR
1st Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
 
Posts: 334
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 12:52 am
Location: Ormond-by-the-Sea, Florida

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby ctjoyce » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:13 pm

Well I tend to let my card do AA and AF not my games (ou end up with higher frames, and you get better results)

Cheers
Cameron
CTJoyce, Modding and voiding warranties since 2003
Sheila's Specs:ASUS Striker Extreme 680i, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2Ghz, Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400C4 2GB, 2x eVGA 7900GT KO,  Western Digital 80GB SATA & 250GB SATAIII
[b]Vesp
User avatar
ctjoyce
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3820
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:42 pm
Location: USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby Mick_C » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:34 am

Weird... I decided to update my nVidia drivers (been having a new problem with sim dropping to about 7fps about six to eight times when first starting a flight), and of course I had to reinstall coolbits, which I've been using for ages to "unlock" the advanced settings on the card.
Anybody have a clue?


You probably thought of this already, but my Invidia card did this as well. I found a few things wrong. I scrapped all the add on aircraft I installed that gave any sign of trouble. Then under the Troubleshooting Section of the Flight Sim menu chose Reset Defaults.

From there, you readjust your video, and reassign key mappings for joystick etc. This was a last ditch effort before reinstalling FS9 from scratch. I've done this 4 times now after botched panel tweaks etc and it worked for me. So far, I haven't had to roll back the origional install.

I'm running a dog slow (1.2Gig) and old Celeron based sys on an Intel DG815EGEW board w 512 RAM. The Nvidia card is only 128Mb, so my system is VERY sensitive to bad configs. I found most of the time, it was a bad guage install on my part, or configuration issue with the add ons that caused the situation.  Hope this helps
Mick
Image
Athlon 64 X2 (T) 4200+2.2Ghz,1GB PC2-3200 DDR SDRAM,250 GB WD SATA HDD
Ati Radeon Xpress 200 Integrated, DL DVD_RW Drive, DVD Drive
Front Panel 9 in 1 Digital Reader Drive
Lo
User avatar
Mick_C
2nd Lieutenant
2nd Lieutenant
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:35 am
Location: AZ

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby beaky » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:29 am


You probably thought of this already, but my Invidia card did this as well. I found a few things wrong. I scrapped all the add on aircraft I installed that gave any sign of trouble. Then under the Troubleshooting Section of the Flight Sim menu chose Reset Defaults.

From there, you readjust your video, and reassign key mappings for joystick etc. This was a last ditch effort before reinstalling FS9 from scratch. I've done this 4 times now after botched panel tweaks etc and it worked for me. So far, I haven't had to roll back the origional install.

I'm running a dog slow (1.2Gig) and old Celeron based sys on an Intel DG815EGEW board w 512 RAM. The Nvidia card is only 128Mb, so my system is VERY sensitive to bad configs. I found most of the time, it was a bad guage install on my part, or configuration issue with the add ons that caused the situation.  Hope this helps
Mick


Been hoping to avoid that, but yes, it might work. Thanks.
BTW, the preview came back after I just reset defaults in the gfx card's OC program and started over there...
Image
User avatar
beaky
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 12877
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:00 am
Location: Shenandoah, PA USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby congo » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:01 pm

20 odd posts and you were overclocked the whole time....... ?

























S  L  A  P  !
ImageMainboard: Asus P5K-Premium, CPU=Intel E6850 @ x8x450fsb 3.6ghz, RAM: 4gb PC8500 Team Dark, Video: NV8800GT, HDD: 2x1Tb Samsung F3 RAID-0 + 1Tb F3, PSU: Antec 550 Basiq, OS: Win7x64, Display: 24&
User avatar
congo
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3655
Joined: Fri Aug 16, 2002 12:13 am
Location: Australia

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby beaky » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:30 pm

20 odd posts and you were overclocked the whole time....... ?


S  L  A  P  !


Easy, now... I've only gone a bit higher than the "optimal settings" set by the unlocked-via-Coolbits nVidia program. I thought everybody knew... ;D
And... have had it that way for a long time, with no problems. The start-n-stop thing is relatively new. And resetting to defaults is not getting rid of it. Even tried changing the virtual memory cache size slightly... no joy.
I'm beginning to suspect an add-on or something; I'm not very thorough about noting before-and-after results, so it'd be hard to say what it might be. So far I've uninstalled a rather disappointing tree add-on (the last known change), but it still hiccups, about 7 times on average, whenever I begin a flight or resume flight after performing  any task in the "Alt"-activated menu.
Whatever... I appreciate everyone's attempts at assistance, but I'm back to average 28 fps, only slightly jaggy, and the hiccuping always stops after a few seconds... I can live with that until I upgrade.
Image
User avatar
beaky
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 12877
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:00 am
Location: Shenandoah, PA USA

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby Skligmund » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:56 pm

Hmmm.

I don't have a preview screen, but it is only when I force max settings on everything via Driver with my 6800GT, regardless if I overclock or not. I expect this, as it has been doing this since the 60 series drivers (don't know before that). Other than that, everything works peachy.
Last edited by Skligmund on Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Athlon64 3700+ San Diego (2200) @ 2750 MHz
1024MB PC3200 @ 500 MHz (Mushkin V2)
GeForce 6800GT OC (BFG)
(2) 80G SATA Seagates RAID0
(1) Maxtor 250Gb 16MB Cache ATA133
19
User avatar
Skligmund
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 593
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2002 2:09 am
Location: Anchorage, Alaska

Re: Lost Select Aircraft preview

Postby AnGeL_MaKeR » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:02 am

[quote]It's nothing to do with a refurb card... drop your AA settings down to 4x... I've got the same prob btw...

I'm running SLI w/twin 7800 gt oc's at 1280x1064 settings... had the same prob before when i had a 6800 gt oc (all cards were from bfg)... when i changed aa setting to max... preview disappeared.
A_M




[center][move]eVGA 8800 GTX...   AMD X2 5200 (AM2)...   ASUS M2N32-SLI mobo...    4 GB Corsair DDR2 800mhz...   Sound Blaster X-Fi Gaming Sound...   2x 250 GB S-ATA, 1x 500 GB S-ATA...  
User avatar
AnGeL_MaKeR
1st Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
 
Posts: 334
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 12:52 am
Location: Ormond-by-the-Sea, Florida

PreviousNext

Return to Tweaking & Overclocking

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 304 guests