Another overclock question for FSX

[raptorx]

I would like to know which of the following would be a better setting for the FSB:

1) 9 x 400
2) 8 x 450

Will the higher FSB speed work better for FSX?

[raptorx]

Bump.

[NickN]

I see you do not know much about O/c. Thats ok, many are not in tune, no pun intended.

I am not going to get into a huge post about the right way to clock. What I will say is that if you are not working with the other settings of the motherboard in terms of memory cache and sub timing features, then the highest FSB you can get at the highest memory speed you can do, at the lowest memory timing is what you want.

But as a pro a O/c and Intel I know that is not always the fastest real world clock. With Intel it responds more to a setting known as Transaction Booster and DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL, both need to be used with caution and a good understanding of how electronics work but in a nutshell, with those 2 items tuned I can run lower FSB and obtain higher system performance

Overclocking is an art and a science. It takes years of expereince to learn how to do it, do it right and understand what you are doing too.

For you I would stick to the basics, stable at the highest FSB/memory speed/lowest memory timing and 1T enabled.

[raptorx]

Yeah, I only got into computer hardware and overclocking last year (2007).  I have done a lot of reading on overclocking and understand the basics.  I just don't have the experience.
Fortunately, I have good HW for overclocking.  I can't say enough about this Gigabyte motherboard in terms of stability and forgiveness.

How can I set 1T?  I don't see the option.

I see you do not know much about O/c. Thats ok, many are not in tune, no pun intended.

I am not going to get into a huge post about the right way to clock. What I will say is that if you are not working with the other settings of the motherboard in terms of memory cache and sub timing features, then the highest FSB you can get at the highest memory speed you can do, at the lowest memory timing is what you want.

But as a pro a O/c and Intel I know that is not always the fastest real world clock. With Intel it responds more to a setting known as Transaction Booster and DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL, both need to be used with caution and a good understanding of how electronics work but in a nutshell, with those 2 items tuned I can run lower FSB and obtain higher system performance

Overclocking is an art and a science. It takes years of expereince to learn how to do it, do it right and understand what you are doing too.

For you I would stick to the basics, stable at the highest FSB/memory speed/lowest memory timing and 1T enabled.

[raptorx]

I suppose if I'm going to try lower multipliers/higher FSB then I need to bump up the FSB and NB voltages?  For instance, add 0.1 - 0.15v when FSB goes above 430MHz?

[NickN]

look for COMMAND RATE in the memory area under the manual settings but be warned, the memory must be able to handle that

[NickN]

[quote]I suppose if I'm going to try lower multipliers/higher FSB then I need to bump up the FSB and NB voltages?

[raptorx]

I have the crucial ballistix DDR2 800 which have the good chips, how's that?

I would lower my memory multiplier from auto (which looks like 2.4) to 2 (which gives me a 1:1 in cpu-z) before setting 1T, correct?

look for COMMAND RATE in the memory area under the manual settings but be warned, the memory must be able to handle that

[NickN]

1:1 is a good place to start. Its not always the fastest with newer intel procs. What you must do is make settings and benchmark, the real world test. its a process and not an exact science. that is why I said its an art and a science

Many claim 1T is not required and does little. The fact of the matter is, it will do little and may not produce the best results if the user is in tune with the memory subtiming and other settings, and they understand the CPU strap and how to manipulate the STRAP in conjunction with memory sub timing. Its a matter of understanding how things work, learn the theory and test it, then make changes to upgrade the results. The production run (date of components and their type) of the hardware can make 2 identical systems run completely different. System A clocks 200Mhz higher than system B of the same hardware.



The numbers that work best for you are based on more than just the brand name and its specs. thos specs are there as a guideline, not set in stone. The corsair forums may also be of assistance. They also post succesful numbers in clocks

[raptorx]

Actually Nick, I spend a lot of time reading about other experiences with the same parts that I have.  That has given me the direction I have been heading in.  But few out there seem to have the knowledge & experience as you and are willing to help like you, and are doing this for FSX.  I try not to post questions until I have searched around for answers first though.

I just don't see a lot of detail on other websites on how to actually read the FSB/NB voltages, only that folks are adding around 0.15v but that doesn't tell me a lot except "add 0.15v".

Also, most overclockers are not running FSX.  I'd want to get advice from FSX savvy people about overclocking.

That website you showed looks like a winner so I'll spend time there reading too.


[quote][quote]I suppose if I'm going to try lower multipliers/higher FSB then I need to bump up the FSB and NB voltages?

[raptorx]

Holy Crap that's a good website!


[quote][quote]I suppose if I'm going to try lower multipliers/higher FSB then I need to bump up the FSB and NB voltages?

[NickN]

[quote]Actually Nick, I spend a lot of time reading about other experiences with the same parts that I have.

[raptorx]

Thanks Nick.  I think I'm good for right now.  Once again I appreciate your help.

-Jim

[NickN]

You are welcome

I really do not get into ver detailed OC conversations here. This foum is full of young adults who copy what is posted without thinking in hopes of getting some miracle result. Because of that I try to temper the OC conversations I am involved with.

I can not give you specifics about your board. Those voltages are specific to the board and the cooling solution it uses. I always upgrade the default cooling of a MB in some way. Sometimes I just remove the factory chipset HS, clean and epoxy them solid using AS epoxy, other times I add or upgrade the MB chipset and hot IC heatsinks. Being an electrial engineer I know how to spec and upgrade such things based on what I intend to do.


Have fun ..

[J.]

watch your temps make sure your processor fan and heat sink is clean, when mine is clean i can run 2.8 stable but once dust builds up it gets to hot to run at the over clock