XBOX 360 (Oh Great)....

[Mobius]

Well, I just pre-ordered one and I think I may have to give up eating and live out of my car for a couple of months, but it will be worth it for Halo 3 and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.  

Anyone else ordered one yet?

Just wondering,

[Craig.]

Nope not wasting the money. Gonna wait for the PS3, sick of being screwed by bill gates, and the ps3 has better specs.

[ATI_7500]

No matter how good consoles will be, they won't be a match for PCs.

[Craig.]

However i cant afford the cost of a PC and the ever nessicary upgrades as games get better. With a console you get almost identical graphics or certainly will with the X-box 360 and PS3(why they are so expensive) And you dont have to worry 99% of the time if it will run properly. No stuttering and crashes are rare.

[ATI_7500]

If you only have little knowledge about computers, a console is better indeed. But most of the incompatibilities concerning games can be solved by the user him/herself.

[the_autopilot]

The gfx of computer will kill those of the consoles. Keep in mind the consoles are being released in the future (they're not out now) and are being compared to present day hardware. When those consoles come out, PC's will have or soon will have much much better hardware.

BTW, the video card in the PS3 is a modified 7800, which I (and several others here) ALREADY have.

BTW, the xbox 360 is probably going to be the sweet spot. The PS3 is going to be too expensive. It inculdes a blu-ray player. A stand-alone blu-ray player costs about 500 bucks. Plus, its not that much more powerful than the xbox 360. Don't be tricked by the number of core its CPU has, the Ps3 overall processing power isn't more than the average PC. In addition, programming for it will be hard, a huge turnoff for developers (anyone remember the N64). Its a new CPU with a new instruction set. Xbox 360 uses IBM Power CPU's which already have a stable development following (being the CPU of choice for macs).

I'm not saying the PS3 will be bad, I'm saying it might not live up to its hype. Still though, I'm planning getting it (I need blu-ray).

[Paz]

If you only have little knowledge about computers, a console is better indeed. But most of the incompatibilities concerning games can be solved by the user him/herself.

[|| Andy ||]

The PS3 is going to be too expensive.

Actually, its not going to be. They plan on making a loss on the first two years, and make the profit on the following. Sony predicted a

[Clownloachlover]

If anyone is screwing people on a regular basis and even more so now, it's EA sports.

I agree totally on this statement. They couldn't beat the 2k series even on the Dreamcast so they bought out the NFL so VC couldn't make another NFL football game. Same is true for Nascar. They could never beat Papy on the PC so they bought Nascar out and they produce a "SIM" racing game that even 2 years after NR2003 still can't beat it.

Clown

[Craig.]

I wont argue that one company ownership is wrong, crappy f1 games are a result much like madden.

[Clownloachlover]

I wont argue that one company ownership is wrong, crappy f1 games are a result much like madden.

I was real lucky about 6 months ago. I walked into a Circuit  City and on the shelf in a tathered unopened box was Grand Prix 4 for $9.99. I grabbed that real quick.

Clown

[the_autopilot]

 Actually, the next gen gaming systyems are going to be more powerful than any PC available at the time of their release, they will be sporting 3 processors and the video cards from both ATI and NVidia have been specially built for the consoles and pack more punch than anything on the market for PC's.

Actually, all these consoles only have ONE processor. Its just that the xbox CPU has 3 cores in it. The sony one has 8 cores in it (including the SPE). However, these CPU's are highly specialized and so are only powerful when it comes to a certain field. Should you attempt to use these in an PC, you'll see that these CPU's would lag behind a pentium 3. The Ps3's cell processor has 8 yes, but 6 of them are very special and are limited to certain functions (one of thme is disabled also). Should you run a PC program on it, at most only 2 or 3 cores would be used and these 2 or 3 cores cannot match the performence of a much faster single/dual core intel/AMD. (If you want more info on the cell, read this article, here)

The video cards in these consoles are modified versians of upcoming video cards for the PC. The ps3 is sporting an overclocked variant of the 7800 GTX with more memory added. The xbox will be using a variant of the r520 slated for release next year by ATI. So, yes, currently, these consoles are better than PC's graphic power-wise, but that will soon change as these cards become available for the PC. Plus, none of these console will support SLI/Crossfire, which already limits them in terms of graphical performence when compared to the PC.

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Actually, its not going to be. They plan on making a loss on the first two years, and make the profit on the following. Sony predicted a

[Paz]

 I see what you're saying autopilot, all the components for the new consoles are specifically designed for running games, therefore I guess they are the best at what they are meant to do but would fall short if forced to deal with the mega-multitasking that computers are forced to deal with everyday.

Thanks for the info and clearing that up.

[Craig.]

but this is the point. If i want multi tasking and hard work i go with the pc. If i want simple no setup required fun i go with a console. I am on my second PS2 but only because i dropped my first, and i have had no problems at all with my PSP. Ok it isn't that old but so far so good.

[the_autopilot]

but this is the point. If i want multi tasking and hard work i go with the pc. If i want simple no setup required fun i go with a console. I am on my second PS2 but only because i dropped my first, and i have had no problems at all with my PSP. Ok it isn't that old but so far so good.

I was just clarifying on what he said that consoles are more powerful than PC's. Your right though, the average joe is going to prefer a console with no hassle 'instant-on' gaming.

In fact, I prefer it too. Proud owner of the new slim PS2. I only have 2 games for it though (Final Fantasy X and X-2...best RPG's ever.)