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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby JBaymore » Tue May 25, 2010 12:34 pm

OK.... linklayer technology now shows on one XP machine.

Gotta run.... more flightsim tests later.

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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby JBaymore » Tue May 25, 2010 4:48 pm

OK... the "good news / Bad news" scenario:

The good news is that the XP machine that now has the Linked Layer stuff installed now shows up on the network "Map" in Win 7.

The bad nesw is that the gsuges still don't work.

On now to check the other potential issues above ........ sigh.

But one part of the networking mess is clearly now "down".  So that is good.  THANKS.

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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby NickN » Tue May 25, 2010 6:22 pm

OK then as long as permissions for the sharing folders on both ends are set to allow full read/write, bla, bla, bla for 'everyone' and you can open, move files, add files, edit files, or, delete them from those folders from another machine I cant see it being a network issue so at that point I would look at the gauges themselves running from a machine other than W7.

The driver model in XP is different than W7, completely different so there may be an issue because of that.

You could try 'compatibility mode' but my tests show that reduces performance, at least in FSX cant say it does with FS9.. its done by right clicking the FS9 shortcut on the W7 machine and selecting the Compat tab, then select to run this program in compat mode for XP SP3
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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby UnkieDude » Tue May 25, 2010 7:35 pm

So it takes a simpit builder to get your help now, Nick?  There goes my budget!  And my patience!  And what little hair I have left!  Sigh...

LOL...

John and Nick,

This thread helped me with my network connection issues.  I was recently given a copy of Win7 Ultimate by my brother-in-law.  He got it thru his employer when they bought a bunch extra and needed to unload them.  Got it cheap, loaded it, hated it and passed it down to me.

I loaded it (64bit) on my machine, an ASUS P5-KE, Intel Q8400, four gig Ram, all Vrap drives main PC and loved it immediately.  Once got it set up with Nick's Win7 tweak, I got a 5-12 fps FSX boost depending on where I was flying.  Hubs went from having to set traffic and scenery just so to getting VERY acceptable and smooth performance around them while leaving settings same as country flying.  "Out in the country" is smoother and better than ever.  I can now use some of those hd clouds.

But the fly in the butter was the networking issues.  I am running Vista x32 Home on my laptop, a second PC with XP Pro x32 and an old Gateway with Win98 SE for some of my legacy games and software that still entertain me or have some utility.  I used the laptop and XP pc to run stuff a weather radar addon and to run Saitek control panels and gauges.  Til this thread, I couldnt get the laptop or 2nd pc to talk to the big machine after loading it with Win7.  They all work together now.

Thanks guys...Lurking can pay off.

Good luck with you problems, John and thanks for still hanging around Nick.

Nick?  What makes Win7 as configured by your tweak run FSX so much better?  I notice 25-30% less memory usage at idle and about 20% less usage when simming with the extra stuff off-machined to the laptop and 2nd PC.  That it?  Better memory utilization and less crap running in backround?  Just courioser and courioser...
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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby JBaymore » Tue May 25, 2010 9:00 pm

OK then as long as permissions for the sharing folders on both ends are set to allow full read/write, bla, bla, bla for 'everyone' and you can open, move files, add files, edit files, or, delete them from those folders from another machine I cant see it being a network issue so at that point I would look at the gauges themselves running from a machine other than W7.


Won't have time today to finish re-checking this kind of stuff... but will continue tomorrow.

The driver model in XP is different than W7, completely different so there may be an issue because of that.


This confuses me a bit.  The data, as Peter Dowson says, is being sent out from a 32 bit program on one machine, and sent to a 32 bit program on the other machine.  How do the drivers affect the data stream itself?  Is it an issue of header and packet differences and handshakes?

You could try 'compatibility mode' but my tests show that reduces performance, at least in FSX cant say it does with FS9.. its done by right clicking the FS9 shortcut on the W7 machine and selecting the Compat tab, then select to run this program in compat mode for XP SP3


I just want to make sure before I might ever try this idea......... can I revert it back simply by unchecking that box?  Or will I have to do a full uninstall / reinstall of fs2004 if it does not work or if it degrades performance to an unaceptable level?

Thanks again for the input Nick.

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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby NickN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:38 am

[quote] Nick?
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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby NickN » Wed May 26, 2010 11:41 am

John

The communication should be fine.. I was just questioning the driver model changes between WinXP and Win7 and not knowing the extent of how these gauges work/run between the system and how they are lauched, it occured to me it was possible there may be a problem in that area..   but Pete is correct.

As for switching back..  just uncheck the box and hit APPLY

simple as that  :)
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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby JBaymore » Wed May 26, 2010 1:37 pm

I helped John start the build on his new system by getting him set up on the right parts and agreed to try help the transition from his old rig, to the new one as much as I could. John and I go way back and if anyone around here deserved my direct attention before I fade into oblivion, it is him.



Awww gawrsh, Nick
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Re: HELP: Win 7 64 bit networking issues

Postby UnkieDude » Thu May 27, 2010 7:15 pm

[quote][quote] Nick?
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